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|02-11-2011, 03:35 PM||#13|
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It's an interesting fight to watch with the sound off so as not to get distracted by the comentators and crowd noise and actually watch how many of Leonard's punches didn't actually land.
As to the thread I guess it is the old depends where you sit on Duran, he certainly wasn't a brawler nor was he Willie Pep but for a "fighter" his defence was top notch.
|02-11-2011, 04:30 PM||#14|
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He had a very good defense, his head movement was superb. His defense is not noticable a lot as he uses quick subtle movements while going in on the attack. You are so distracted by his stunning offense you forget to look at the little tricks and defense manouvers he is pulling off while doing so.
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nobody is impossible to hit
very rarely was duran hit with flush punches, especially before his reflexes started to slow down
when he did get hit he knew how to roll with shots and fire back
considering the manner in which he fought that's remarkable.
i've said he was "Impossible to hit" in one of these threads. hell, maybe it's me you're talking about who is "overrating" him defensively
i'll stand by it. he was a brilliant boxer.
he was one of the more adept fighters defensively of his era
and he never ran while doing it
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|02-11-2011, 07:48 PM||#16|
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Duran's defense was excellent for an aggressive fighter. But that shouldn't be confused with Willie Pep or Pernell Whitaker. Duran's defense was underrated for a long time. Now it is overrated similar to the way Mike Tyson's is.
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|02-12-2011, 06:13 PM||#18|
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Yeah, it's a funny one. It can be overrated, yet is underrated in general. I think it's underrated, because for an offensive based fighter of his caliber, it is literally impossible not to get hit. When you think of classic defensive guys and watch those rare fights where they feel like brawling or standing in, they get hit a hell of a lot more than usual and often as much as the next guy. When you put it into that context, it kind of makes sense how good his defense was.
When he deliberately tried not to be hit in classic defensive mode, he was very, very difficult to hit at all. See later part of Leonard fight for example when he was mocking Leonard with it. It's just rare that he ever did do it. He certainly wasn't a Pep though, and fought far, far too differently to ever be like that. It was just one of the great skills which made the way he did fight all the better.
Carlos: You don't consider a prime Leonard to be one of the greatest combination punchers of all time?
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In his 50 years of fighting, I cant remember his face looking very swollen...especially not in his prime. Cant think of a time he was cut in a fight, although he had a lot of fights, mightve missed it
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