Boxing Forum
Navigation
Go Back   Boxing Forum > Boxing Forums > Boxing History

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 12-14-2004, 11:51 AM #1
gogan gogan is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Amherst N.S. , Canada
Age: 30
Posts: 112
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
gogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 55,821.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 55,821.00
Default Did Liston Cheat During Bout With AliÉ

we all have heard that ali had some bit of trouble fighting sonny liston for the first time. during a middle round ali suddenly went blind, why is this. did liston cheat by putting something on his gloves that would come in contact with ali`s eyes. if anyone knows any of the real details please inform me.
gogan is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisements
>>>TO REMOVE THESE ADS, PLEASE REGISTER HERE FOR FREE<<<
Old 12-16-2004, 08:40 PM #2
The Italian Stallion The Italian Stallion is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Scottsdale, Arizona
Age: 26
Posts: 275
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
The Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond reputeThe Italian Stallion has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 70,914.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 70,914.00
Send a message via AIM to The Italian Stallion
Default

He did get pretty desparate because Sonny was getting killed. He put the stuff you use to seal up cuts on his right glove. He was blind for two rounds i think
The Italian Stallion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-16-2004, 11:30 PM #3
dempseyfire dempseyfire is offline
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 875
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 15
dempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond reputedempseyfire has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 14,156.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 14,156.00
Default

There is no proof of any foul play, and as most observers had the fight even at that point (rds 2 and 4 to Liston, 1 and 3 to Clay) I see no reason Liston would've cheated. Angelo Dundee believes it was just some of the ointment they were using for Liston's cut that rubbed off in a clinch . . .
dempseyfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2004, 01:29 PM #4
gogan gogan is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Amherst N.S. , Canada
Age: 30
Posts: 112
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
gogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond reputegogan has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 55,821.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 55,821.00
Default

yes but the same incident happened as well 2 other times during this era. the exact same thing and guess who was fighting in all 3 fights. sonny bad boy liston
gogan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-21-2004, 08:01 PM #5
Atwa_66 Atwa_66 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pen Argyl, Pa.
Age: 28
Posts: 3,223
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0
Atwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond reputeAtwa_66 has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 169,634.78
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 169,634.78
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gogan
yes but the same incident happened as well 2 other times during this era. the exact same thing and guess who was fighting in all 3 fights. sonny bad boy liston
Wow, that's pretty weird. I heard of it, but I don't know any facts behind the story
Atwa_66 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-25-2004, 10:48 PM #6
trephination trephination is offline
Contender
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Age: 42
Posts: 101
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 13
trephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond reputetrephination has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 12,399.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 12,399.00
Default

I think liston was willing to do whatever it took to win that fight fair or not
trephination is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-26-2004, 05:28 PM #7
MGG MGG is offline
Up and Comer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 56
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 14
MGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond reputeMGG has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 12,757.24
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 12,757.24
Default

Not sure what the truth is but it seems the mob won that fight.
MGG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2005, 01:09 AM #8
jayrichardse jayrichardse is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 31
Posts: 100
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0
jayrichardse is on a distinguished road
Points: 11,677.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 11,677.00
Default

hell yea he cheated
jayrichardse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2005, 03:04 PM #9
ghostdancer ghostdancer is offline
Amateur
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 58
Posts: 14
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 0
ghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond reputeghostdancer has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 12,391.00
Bank: 0.00
Total Points: 12,391.00
Default

liston deserves more respect than he ever got it can't have been easy being controled by the scurge of boxing that is the mafia as far as the glove thing with ali is concerned we will never know besides ali's corner were not that inocent didn't they cut a slit in his glove whe henry cooper knocked him down to allow him more time to recover
ghostdancer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2005, 03:29 PM #10
The1God The1God is offline
Interim Champion
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 996
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rep Power: 129
The1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond reputeThe1God has a reputation beyond repute
Points: 800,000,051,129,042.38
Bank: 10,131,399.81
Total Points: 800,000,061,260,442.12
Default

Bobby Chez Accused Evander holyfield of doing the same thing in their fight. Bobby's face was very red and he complained that his eyes were burning.
The1God is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share This With Friends

User Tag List

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
Forum Jump


 

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:35 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.