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Old 08-09-2010, 06:03 AM #1
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SHW / HW (201lbs+) :
(1) Lennox Lewis
(2) Chris Byrd
(3) Hassim Rahman
(4) Evander Holyfield
(5) Larry Holmes
(6) Francois Botha
(7) Muhammad Ali
(8) Sam Peter
(9) Ross Puritty
(10) Orlin Norris

(11) Oliver McCall
(12) Mike Tyson
(13) David Tua
(14) George Chuvalo
(15) Jerry Quarry
(16) Ken Norton
(17) Oscar Bonavena
(18) Joe Louis
(19) Jimmy Young
(20) Jimmy Ellis

(21) Corrie Sanders
(22) Oleg Maskaev
(23) Jameel McCline
(24) James Smith

CW :
Jersey Joe Walcott
Rocky Marciano
Evander Holyfield
O'neil Bell
Johnny Nelson
Steve Cunningham
Jean Marc Mormeck




LHW :
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Joey Maxim
Harold Johnson
Sam Langford
Michael Spinks
Muhammad Saad (Matthew Franklin(Maxwell Antoino Loach))
Harry Greb


P4P :
(1) Sam Langford
(2) Young Peter Jackson
(3) James Toney
(4) Charley Burley
(5) Ezzard Charles
(6) Ray Robinson
(7) Roberto Duran
(8) Harry Greb
(9) Jorge Fernando Castro
(10) Hector Camacho


(11) Ray Leonard
(12) Muhammad Qawi
(13) Michael Spinks
(14) Michael Moorer
(15) Henry Armstrong
(16) Marlon Starling
(17) Ronald Wright
(18) Ike Quartery
(19) Jimmy Bivins
(20) Manny Pacquiao



(21) Simon Brown
(22) Julio Cesar Chavez
(23) Vinny Pazienza
(24) Juan Manuel Marquez

Next post (after replying the replies will be some of the limited weight divisions)

Last edited by frankenfrank; 09-02-2010 at 06:50 AM. Reason: corrections and LHW and CW added
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Old 08-09-2010, 10:39 AM #2
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P4P :
(1) Sam Langford
(2) Young Peter Jackson
(3) James Toney
(4) Charley Burley
(5) Ezzard Charles
(6) Ray Robinson
(7) Roberto Duran
(8) Marlon Starling
(9) Jorge Fernando Castro
(10) Hector Camacho

(11) Ray Leonard
(12) Muhammad Qawi
(13) Michael Spinks
(14) Michael Moorer
(15) Ronald Wright
(16) Ike Quartery
(17) Jimmy Bivins
(18) Manny Pacquiao
(19) Henry Armstrong
(20) Simon Brown

(21) Julio Cesar Chavez
(22) Vinny Pazienza
(23) Juan Manuel Marquez

No love for Archie Moore?, he fought everyone Burley + Charles did and a whole lot more.
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Old 08-09-2010, 12:45 PM #3
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Francois Botha should be ranked over Sam Peter:

This is who Botha fought in his career:

Mike Tyson
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
Shannon Briggs


Imagine if he beat all those people? Hed be GOAT for sure...
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:09 PM #4
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No love for Archie Moore?, he fought everyone Burley + Charles did and a whole lot more.
He rarely faced bigger guys if he did at all.
But he should not b far from there either
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Old 08-09-2010, 04:18 PM #5
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Francois Botha should be ranked over Sam Peter:

This is who Botha fought in his career:

Mike Tyson
Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko
Evander Holyfield
Michael Moorer
Shannon Briggs


Imagine if he beat all those people? Hed be GOAT for sure...
Good surprising mention , currently you may be correct.
I will now push him 1 place above Peter .
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De La Hoya fought

Mosleyx2
Chavezx2
Whitaker
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Hopkins
Trinidad

he deserves to be in the P4P list.
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Good surprising mention , currently you may be correct.
I will now push him 1 place above Peter .
When I came to place him it turned out 2 places over Peter , which is 1 over Ali
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De La Hoya fought

Mosleyx2
Chavezx2
Whitaker
Mayweather
Pacquiao
Hopkins
Trinidad

he deserves to be in the P4P list.
Although all are big names , the first 5 were smaller men.
An emphasis of this reasoning :
If Wladimir Klitschko fought Floyd Mayweather , who is undeniably better P4P , should such a thing prove him as a P4P fighter ?
Same for Floyd's move with Marquez.
And to the contrary : if Marquez moved up from featherweight to lightweight and stopped 2 champions there , whom were rightfully not considered great P4P fighters , was it enough to justify a boost in his P4P ranking ? definitely .
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