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Old 07-14-2010, 01:48 PM #1
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Default Fedor got lazy, thats why he lost...

I feel the reason Fedor lost is because he got lazy and relied on his power, rather than technique. AGREE/DISAGREE?



ps: This loss is the best thang that happened with Fedor. It has remotivated him I believe.
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Old 07-14-2010, 01:59 PM #2
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I knew he was gonna lose because he never fights with strategy. He will fight his opponents at their own game and he has gottan lucky in the past (Nogeuira on the ground, Cro Cop in the stand up) but I knew that Werdum's ground game was at just another level.

What Fedor did was the equivalent of fighting Wladimir Klitschko in an MMA match and choosing to stand and trade punches.

But this was a good lesson for him and he will be much improved because of it.
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best thing about Fedor was he was undefeated in everyones eyes.

now hes been defeated, easily.

stop making up excuses, hope werdum subs him in 1st rd again.
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Old 07-14-2010, 02:43 PM #4
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^^

Lol at our resident self-proclaimed troll here. You and I both know you don't really believe that.


On topic, Fedor definitely got lazy, and over confident imo. I really don't think this fight knock's Fedor down hardly at all. Even the best can be caught, and he wasn't dominated in any sense of the word, merely caught in a sub.

This analogy underrates Werdum's MMA ability a bit, however, it is not unlike a boxer in a tune-up fight being caught with a perfectly timed shot right on the button and being knocked out. I've seen this happen in the past, and this is the closest analogy I can think of. I don't want to use the word fluke, and Werdum is an amazing fighter and one of the best on the ground, bar none. However, Fedor clearly was caught, and Fedor is almost certainly the superior fighter.

As far as rankings go, as far as I'm concerned, any non-bias heavyweight rankings cannot possibly fail to be in utter disarray, as a result of the recent events (not that an unbiased ratings list necessarily exists). I saw some rankings with Brock and Carwin at 1 and 2, as if Brock employing the Homer Simpson defense against a man in Carwin who gassed within one round could warrent such a rating. I can understand the argument for Brock, but Carwin within the top 5 is a joke, let alone the top 3. He's still a fighter with great potential, but he has to work his way back, and you don't move up in rankings after gassing in less than 1 round, by virtue of exposing another man for being punch shy.

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Old 07-14-2010, 03:15 PM #5
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I guess you can say that. I think he started believing his own hype. Everyone hyped him up so damn hard, calling him a god and ****. That it finally got to his head, he believed there was no possible way he would be beaten. Then Werdum put the triangle on him twice and it was a done deal.

That sense of invincibility is gone now. All that is left is to hope that it was a humbling experience for him.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:08 PM #6
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I guess you can say that. I think he started believing his own hype. Everyone hyped him up so damn hard, calling him a god and ****. That it finally got to his head, he believed there was no possible way he would be beaten. Then Werdum put the triangle on him twice and it was a done deal.

That sense of invincibility is gone now. All that is left is to hope that it was a humbling experience for him.
I agree with this to a large extent, however I don't believe Fedor believed in his invincibility. To the contrary, I think he may have been affected by the status of invincibility which was conveyed upon him.

I think this was quite clear from his post-fight interviews. He said that he never wanted to be an idol and that, essentially, he prefers to see himself as just another fighter. I think he may have let it all go to his head, the hype and all, but not in the sense that he thought he was unbeatable, but in the sense that he was dis-focused because of the hype which surrounded him.

I still think he has the most talent of any fighter in MMA, past or present. Whether or not his mind is still in it is the big question, I suppose.
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how was it lazy ? he didnt believe he could be submitted.
and he got submitted.

no luck, no fluke. just one guy beating another in the area he excels.
but no, noone can credit werdum for winning, only discredit fedor for losing.

**** fedor fans.

idc if u think im a troll. you delusional fans made me this way
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how was it lazy ? he didnt believe he could be submitted.
and he got submitted.

no luck, no fluke. just one guy beating another in the area he excels.
but no, noone can credit werdum for winning, only discredit fedor for losing.

**** fedor fans.

idc if u think im a troll. you delusional fans made me this way
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Yeah, and you Brock fans are still swinging on his nuts and talking nonsense about Fedor despite the fact that Brock got subbed by a lesser BJJ guy than Werdum and then got the **** beat out of him in his last fight and only survived because his opponent gassed.

What happened to Brock being too strong for everyone? What happened to Brock being too fast for the other HWs? His great wrestling? His unstoppable takedowns? Him being a great natural athlete? Oh yeah, all of those claims turned out to either be untrue or to count for nothing against Carwin
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Fedor fans at least have a great resume and great skills and diversity to back up their fandom. Brock fans have 'wow, he's so big it's unnatural. Though not unnatural in a steroids way, haters'.
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maybe.

but let's not take anything away from werdum , he is a world class grappler.

**** happens.

he can beat fabricio in the rematch.
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maybe.

but let's not take anything away from werdum , he is a world class grappler.

**** happens.

he can beat fabricio in the rematch.
This.

He didn't get lazy he was too reckless. He got caught. It happens when your facing the best Heavyweight grappler in MMA.
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