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Old 02-05-2010, 01:52 AM #1
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Lightbulb The 10 levels of Professional Boxing

This is my opinion of the different levels or hierarchy of professional boxing. Starting from beginning professional to all time great living legend. I would like to identify which boxers past present & future are at which level/ point in their career. Feed back would be greatly appreciated.

Level 1 - Beginning professional.

5 to 10 fights. This is your omar henrys, matyev korobovs, erislandy laras & shawn porters, rigondeauxs etc.

Level 2 - Tomato Cans.

The no hopers. Chums for beginning professionals. Probably boxing as a part time gig.

Level 3 - Young Prospect
Past the the beginning stage of their career. ready for the next step. This is your saul alvarez & to a certain extent chavez jr. (at least he's being treated by top rank as such.)

Level 4 - Journey Men
Good enough not to be labeled as tomato cans but have no future in the sport. This might be your emmanuel augustuses, monte barrets & hector velasquezes.

Level 5 - Shot/Washed up Name

Former contenders, hall of famers who have no business fighting professionally & need to retire asap. These are your erik moraleses, evander holyfields, marco barreras, & sad to say roy jones jr.

Level 6 - Gate Keepers

Done as elite fighters but not done as a good honest pugilistic professional. Get past this bunch you are a serious professional that is ready for the next level. This bunch could include rocky juarez, ricardo mayorga(maybe too high), antonio tarver, glenn johnson, & nate campbells of the world.

Level 7 - Contenders
Ready for a title shot, a shot at the champions. This your yuriorkis gamboas, urbano antillons, vanes martirosyans, bernabe conceptions, & eddie chambers.

Level 8 - Belt Holder/champion
This is a very ambiguous level. Sure they are above gate keepers & contenders but with the ubiquitous nature of belts & champions the boxers who reside in this level could also be considered level 7 contenders or even gate keepers. This is everybody with a title or belt.

Level 9 - Elite Fighter Status

This level is what differentiates a true champion with a belt to a ordinary fighter who happens to have a belt. This is your p4p top 10. You dont have to own a belt to be considered elite. This is the shane mosley, paul williams, chad dawson, arthur abrahams & bernard hopkins.

Level 10 - Super Star/ Legend Status

This is a level above elite. You cant be too gracious with this designation. I think only 1 or 2 fighters can be considered in this level each year. Sometimes you go a year without anyone attaining this level. I think this level requires some out of ring attributes. I think you have to transcend the sport. I think You have to galvanize the fans, the media, & non boxing fans to consider yourself for this level. I can only think of 2 fighters currently fighting that fit this criteria: Manny Pacquiao & Floyd Mayweather jr.


What do you think guys? Agree or disagree with the placement of levels or the placement of fighters in the levels? I would be glad to see your opinion.
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Old 02-05-2010, 08:06 AM #2
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Level 1 - Beginning professional.

Lionell Thompson
Aleem Whitfield
Shawn Porter
Tony Brinson

Level 2 - Tomato Cans.

Lorenzo Boyd
Reggie Strickland
Jose Vera
Julio Torres

Level 3 - Young Prospect

Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
Frankie Gavin
Ronald Hearns

Level 4 - Journey Men

Ross Purity
Buck Smith
Marion Wilson
Kevin McBride

Level 5 - Shot/Washed up Name

Hector Camacho
Frans Botha
Howard Eastman
Ray Mercer

Level 6 - Gate Keepers

John Ruiz
Junior Witter
Carlos Baldomir
Herbie Hyde

Level 7 - Contenders

Kevin Mitchell
Alex Povetkin
Antonio De Marco
Paulie Malignaggi

Level 8 - Belt Holder/champion

Carl Froch
David Haye
Andre Berto
Devon Alexander

Level 9 - Elite Fighter Status

Edwin Valero
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wladimir Klitschko
Timothy Bradley

Level 10 - Super Star/ Legend Status

Manny Pacquiao
Floyd Mayweather


Just thought i'd play with a few names that were different to yours.. I quite like the idea; it's yet another different way of catagorizing boxers, especially fighters who have retired.. It's a bit more difficult with the active ones, cos in some cases they could end up in 3 or 4 different catagories in as many years..
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Sounds right for the most part.

I could switch 5 & 7 or 3 & 4 but that's just because I put some people in those categories on a higher pedestal.
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Level 1 - Beginning professional.

Lionell Thompson
Aleem Whitfield
Shawn Porter
Tony Brinson

Level 2 - Tomato Cans.

Lorenzo Boyd
Reggie Strickland
Jose Vera
Julio Torres

Level 3 - Young Prospect

Tyson Fury
Robert Helenius
Frankie Gavin
Ronald Hearns

Level 4 - Journey Men

Ross Purity
Buck Smith
Marion Wilson
Kevin McBride

Level 5 - Shot/Washed up Name

Hector Camacho
Frans Botha
Howard Eastman
Ray Mercer

Level 6 - Gate Keepers

John Ruiz
Junior Witter
Carlos Baldomir
Herbie Hyde

Level 7 - Contenders

Kevin Mitchell
Alex Povetkin
Antonio De Marco
Paulie Malignaggi

Level 8 - Belt Holder/champion

Carl Froch
David Haye
Andre Berto
Devon Alexander

Level 9 - Elite Fighter Status

Edwin Valero
Juan Manuel Marquez
Wladimir Klitschko
Timothy Bradley

Level 10 - Super Star/ Legend Status

Manny Pacquiao
Floyd Mayweather


Just thought i'd play with a few names that were different to yours.. I quite like the idea; it's yet another different way of catagorizing boxers, especially fighters who have retired.. It's a bit more difficult with the active ones, cos in some cases they could end up in 3 or 4 different catagories in as many years..
Great list.

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Sounds right for the most part.

I could switch 5 & 7 or 3 & 4 but that's just because I put some people in those categories on a higher pedestal.
yea, 3 & 4 i struggled with. I put young prospect because some journey man could be former greats, contenders, champions, with a great resume as oppose to a young contender with 10-15 fights.
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