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Old 01-20-2010, 09:58 AM #1
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Default 1991 James Toney vs 1985/86 Thomas Hearns At 160lb

A trained James Toney who defeated the unbeaten Michael Nunn vs a 1985/1986 Thomas Hearns at Middleweight.

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Old 01-20-2010, 11:48 AM #2
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Assuming Toney was in top shape i see Hearns dominating with his height & reach but Toney walking him down and taking him out eventually, well not walking him down but the putting pressure on him.

I think this would come down to who has the better chin, thats Toney unfortunately for Hearns.

Toney was a bigger puncher at 160 and had very underrated speed imo.
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Old 01-20-2010, 11:53 AM #3
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I think Hearns would've won a decision if he fights the right fight and sticks to it.
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Assuming Toney was in top shape i see Hearns dominating with his height & reach but Toney walking him down and taking him out eventually, well not walking him down but the putting pressure on him.

I think this would come down to who has the better chin, thats Toney unfortunately for Hearns.

Toney was a bigger puncher at 160 and had very underrated speed imo.
i think james toney eventually catches up to a tiring tommy hearns and stops him cold in the later round james toney would wear down the hitman by rolling with the punches and working his body over
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Old 01-20-2010, 01:24 PM #5
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Hearns was very difficult to outbox, everyone likes to talk about his right hand but the guy knew how to use his height and reach. I think Hearns wins the decision.
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Hearns takes the lead early, but I could definitely see James walking him down and catching him late like he did to Nunn.
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Old 01-20-2010, 07:15 PM #7
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Nice two of my favorites!

I'd take James by late TKO. Toney proved time and time again throughout his career that he could ramp up the heat late in fights. Nunn, McCallum, Johnson, Littles, Jirov....he closed strong when he needed to.

Hearns would box well behind that long jab, mixing right hands and left hooks to the body when he could. Hearns had lapses in his game plan from time to time, but I think he'd try to stay true to boxing for a good portion of the fight.

The '91 version of James drops several early rounds but starts finding a home for the counter right hand as time goes on. I see James landing hard punches more often by the middle rounds and a volley of punches gets Hearns in trouble by round 9. James pounces, Tommy has trouble defending himself, James stops Tommy.
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Toney was pretty consistent at 160, whereas I feel Hearns could win or lose to any of the top middles with good chins.. Although Barkley was at 175, Toney handled the same version a lot better than Tommy did, and the same applies to another common opponent in Doug DeWitt, which was indeed at 160.. Take into account, Toney's rolling defense stratergy and I see Toney winning by late TKO or DC..
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James Toney is the master. He'd have knocked Thomas Hearns out and I really couldn't see it going any other way.
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I don't know why anyone would use the Michael Nunn fight as a comparison.Michael Nunn didn't have the power to gain fat Toney's respect,and his offense the entire fight consisted of pitty pat flurries.fat Toney was in control of that entire fight regardless of the scorecards at the time of the stoppage.


Hearns had as much speed as Nunn and he was certainly a much more accurate and dangerous puncher than Nunn ever was.



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Toney was pretty consistent at 160, whereas I feel Hearns could win or lose to any of the top middles with good chins.. Although Barkley was at 175, Toney handled the same version a lot better than Tommy did, and the same applies to another common opponent in Doug DeWitt, which was indeed at 160.. Take into account, Toney's rolling defense stratergy and I see Toney winning by late TKO or DC..

fat Toney was never consistent at 160.He couldn't fight the full three minutes and often fought in spurts,often relying on his dangerous right hand.


Hearns was an old fading fighter by the time Barkley fought one of the greatest fights of his career and stuck on Hearn's chest and swamped him.


Toney is a completely different fighter to Barkley,there is no way in hell that he could have fought at the same pace,with the same consistency as Barkley fought against Hearns.
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