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View Poll Results: Who is the second best boxer to retire undefeated?
Joe Calzaghe 46-0 18 46.15%
Jimmy Barry 58-0-10 0 0%
Ricardo Lopez 51-0-1 18 46.15%
Laszlo Papp 27-0 0 0%
Jack McAudiliffe 34-07 0 0%
Harry Simon 24-0 2 5.13%
Terry Marsh 26-0 0 0%
Sven Ottke 34-0 1 2.56%
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Old 01-17-2010, 09:49 AM #1
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I think Rocky Marciano who retired 49-0 would likely win the poll so i will ask who you regard as the second greatest fighter who retired undefeated? I won't include Paddy Monoghan who was a modern BKB who was like 114-0. In addition, the fighter needs a minimum of 20 wins so a guy like Ji Won Kim won't be included. Perhaps another list can be made for active undefeated fighters as Chris John, Ivan Calderon, Mayweather Jr, and Abraham etc.

If any fighter you like is not mentioned please include with details. Only Critieria is retired and atleast 20 wins.
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:00 AM #2
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Good 1st choice, and the right one too!
It's a toss up between Ricardo Lopez and Joe Calzaghe..
This is a very good question, because whoever it is won't be universally recognized as an ATG.. I'll edge slightly towards Caz on the strength of him winning titles in 2 divisions with no draws..
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Old 01-17-2010, 10:32 AM #3
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Got to be Sven Ottke surely
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Old 01-17-2010, 12:13 PM #4
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Terry Marsh is actually 26-0-1.. A draw with Lloyd Christie (brother of Errol) early in his career..
Retired while reigning IBF LWW champ due to being diagnozed as suffering from epilepsy, then got arrested, banged up and eventually cleared, for the shooting of Frank Warren..

Bit of a character was Marsh, ex Marine, Fireman and at one time, a world amateur chess champion.. Like Bobby Czyz and Nicky Piper, he is also a mensa member..
I was gutted when he quit as he was coming into his prime and getting better with every fight.. The KO of John Louis Manley to win the title was nothing short of spectacular.. He was also a good talker and great in the commentary box also..

Since quiting boxing, he's had his hands in all sorts of pies.. I know he got some qualifications while studying through the Open University & later ran for Parliament in the local elections..
Although incredibly sharp & articulate, it all came to nothing as he was once again arrested by police for allegedly ripping off the Government grant system in order to gain his degree.. He was hit with several charges of defrauding the Goverment with intent, but incredibly, Marsh and his legal team made mugs of the officials in court, and was aquitted on all charges for a second time..

Marsh was always a tricky customer.. Inside the ring, he was durable, slick and incredibly fit, and outside of it, he had more moves than a snake..
Not sure what he's up to now, but i bet he's doing alright, and I don't believe for one minute, he's got epilepsy..
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Terry Marsh is actually 26-0-1.. A draw with Lloyd Christie (brother of Errol) early in his career..
Retired while reigning IBF LWW champ due to being diagnozed as suffering from epilepsy, then got arrested, banged up and eventually cleared, for the shooting of Frank Warren..

Bit of a character was Marsh, ex Marine, Fireman and at one time, a world amateur chess champion.. Like Bobby Czyz and Nicky Piper, he is also a mensa member..
I was gutted when he quit as he was coming into his prime and getting better with every fight.. The KO of John Louis Manley to win the title was nothing short of spectacular.. He was also a good talker and great in the commentary box also..

Since quiting boxing, he's had his hands in all sorts of pies.. I know he got some qualifications while studying through the Open University & later ran for Parliament in the local elections..
Although incredibly sharp & articulate, it all came to nothing as he was once again arrested by police for allegedly ripping off the Government grant system in order to gain his degree.. He was hit with several charges of defrauding the Goverment with intent, but incredibly, Marsh and his legal team made mugs of the officials in court, and was aquitted on all charges for a second time..

Marsh was always a tricky customer.. Inside the ring, he was durable, slick and incredibly fit, and outside of it, he had more moves than a snake..
Not sure what he's up to now, but i bet he's doing alright, and I don't believe for one minute, he's got epilepsy..
Often records are often being updated for boxers. I put Macudiliffe as 34-0-7 but some have him as 31-0-6. There is also the issue of newspaper decsions on some past fighters and what are considered official or unofficial, or exhibition?

Jeffries also retired undefeated but came back with that fight against Jack Johnson due to white supremists and his vow to prove White Supremacy and of course failed.
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I haven't seen some of those guys, but Ricardo Lopez was amazing he got my vote.
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Lopez got my vote by a whisker. I am a Calzaghe fan though and find him more entertaining than Ricardo.
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I think Rocky Marciano who retired 49-0 would likely win the poll so i will ask who you regard as the second greatest fighter who retired undefeated? I won't include Paddy Monoghan who was a modern BKB who was like 114-0. In addition, the fighter needs a minimum of 20 wins so a guy like Ji Won Kim won't be included. Perhaps another list can be made for active undefeated fighters as Chris John, Ivan Calderon, Mayweather Jr, and Abraham etc.

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Close between Lopez and Calzaghe, but Lopez got my vote.
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Lopez followed by Calzaghe.
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