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Old 01-13-2010, 02:19 PM #1
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I often notice people giving way too much credit to Andrew Golota when it comes to these fights. It's basicely like this: Golota dominated Bowe every second, winning with ease in both fights but for some reason got himself disqualified because he's a 'nutcase' by default. That's the general viewpoint, but I completely disagree.

When I watch these fights, I see a clear pattern. Pretty much every time Golota cowardly cheap shots Bowe is because right before that, he is pummeling Bowe with great combinations, so great that a boxer will start admiring his own work. But right after that, Bowe would just take it and keep coming back for more, and more importantly, he would land or atleast try to land his own shots in return. I can almost see in Golota's face that he can't believe how this guy was still standing and coming back for more while hitting him back.

The fights weren't as one sided as you may think. Especially the second fight. Bowe hurt Golota as well and even knocked him down, cut his eye and lips badly. This was no Dempsey-Willard.

So every time I see those low blows, I just see a mentally weak man who can dish it out but can't take it. He seemed to be tiring and maybe he thought he was going to get taken out in the end. That's basicely it for me, Golota cowardly(compared to other boxers) took the easy way out twice in fights that he was ahead in. I do not believe he "snapped" and somehow ruined his victories. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and did so because he was getting hit back by a man with more heart than he could ever dream of.

This is just my take on it. Anyone else agree?
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Old 01-13-2010, 02:33 PM #2
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I agree although I do think the second fight was brutally one-sided at times, with Golota landing over 50 punches in most rounds (astonishing amount in a heavyweight fight) but Bowe took all of it and landed punches of his own. Before Golota got himself disqualified for low blows, he was hit by a couple of overhand rights. He simply couldn't take punishment like Bowe could and that's why he lost. Bowe won it with sheer heart.

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Why did you hit Bowe in the balls?

The son of a ***** didn’t want to go down. And I didn’t know what was going on with me? It gets worse in the second fight. From the fifth round on I didn’t know what was going on. From the third round I was fighting with a broken jaw. Not many people know this. He was swimming on the ropes. The referee should have stopped the fight and spared Bowe.
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Thanks for the interview, I haven't read it before.

I'm not one to bash fighters but my goodness this guy is an idiot. He makes excuses for every single loss he had, and really crappy excuses at that. "The son of a ***** wouldn't go down" is maybe the only honest answer he gave.
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Not making excuses for Bowe but in the first fight he came in way overweight and possibly undertrained. So some wise person in his camp had him diet, so come the second fight he looked frail and weak, but he was alot slimmer!
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I just see a mentally weak man who can dish it out but can't take it.
I agree with this. Golota could not quell Bowe's fire so he resorted to low blows, he could not cope with the idea Bowe could take his best shots and keep coming back, its ironic that people questioned Bowe's heart early in his career.



Foreman said some stupid things when he was at ringside for HBO, not in this fight but i mean in general, however in this fight i think he made an astute point, he said that Bowe was misjudging the distance Golota could hit him with jab and if sure enough if you watch that fight Golota is tattooing Bowe with the jab. (First fight)

If i recall Golota did much better at counter punching than he did coming foward, when Bowe attacked him he would have success but when he was the aggressor Bowe had has successes.

Bowe would of beaten Golota in his prime but it would of still been a tough fight imo.
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their 2nd fight was as good as any fight in history for action... it was brilliant
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I often notice people giving way too much credit to Andrew Golota when it comes to these fights. It's basicely like this: Golota dominated Bowe every second, winning with ease in both fights but for some reason got himself disqualified because he's a 'nutcase' by default. That's the general viewpoint, but I completely disagree.

When I watch these fights, I see a clear pattern. Pretty much every time Golota cowardly cheap shots Bowe is because right before that, he is pummeling Bowe with great combinations, so great that a boxer will start admiring his own work. But right after that, Bowe would just take it and keep coming back for more, and more importantly, he would land or atleast try to land his own shots in return. I can almost see in Golota's face that he can't believe how this guy was still standing and coming back for more while hitting him back.

The fights weren't as one sided as you may think. Especially the second fight. Bowe hurt Golota as well and even knocked him down, cut his eye and lips badly. This was no Dempsey-Willard.

So every time I see those low blows, I just see a mentally weak man who can dish it out but can't take it. He seemed to be tiring and maybe he thought he was going to get taken out in the end. That's basicely it for me, Golota cowardly(compared to other boxers) took the easy way out twice in fights that he was ahead in. I do not believe he "snapped" and somehow ruined his victories. He knew EXACTLY what he was doing and did so because he was getting hit back by a man with more heart than he could ever dream of.

This is just my take on it. Anyone else agree?
It's not that the fights were one sided it's that Golota came from nowhere. Nobody expected him to be competitive and then he wins the first round, then the second and you go what the f**k is going on here.

He clearly won both fights and then he self-destructed. He definately had some screws loose. Why did he self-destruct? Was he unable to handle the pressure of winning (look at how he came out against Lewis)? I don't know.

I can see what you're saying that he knew what he was doing. I wouldn't phrase that way but ok. But then the question for me is why? Why would he throw away fights that he was winning.
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He clearly won both fights and then he self-destructed. He definately had some screws loose.
He wasn't crazy. He just didn't have any heart compared to other fighters. he couldn't deal with the fact that Bowe was taking everything he had to offer, and was still hitting him back, still knocking him down, still cutting his entire face up etc. I haven't seen Golota low blow a guy this severely outside the Bowe fights.

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Was he unable to handle the pressure of winning (look at how he came out against Lewis)? I don't know.
He only liked winning when the guy in front of him wasn't able to withstand him. When he had a warrior in front of him like Bowe who would take everything, or a wrecking ball like Tyson, Brewster or Lewis, he didn't want to have any part of it.

Golota is not getting a free pass from me. He should be called out on his cowardice behavior like any other fighter in his place would have been. There were no screws loose. He simply wanted a way out because he couldn't deal with the adversity. He knew exactly what he was doing.
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