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Old 10-17-2009, 05:46 PM #1
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Default Ray Arcel's Post Fight Thoughts To Zale vs Graziano II

In Tony's dressing room it was quiet. A Chicago News camerman was asking Sam Pian if he would bring Tony out from the inner room to have some shots taken.

Sam said he would in a minute. Ray Arcel, naked but for a pair of shorts with a playing card design, was soaking towels in ice water and laying them on the leather table. The room was stiflingly hot. Arcel looked up at co-manager Art Winch. ''It was the heat that got him, not Graziano, he said. ''He just cound't breathe.

When did he first complain of the heat? asked the cameraman.

''Never, answered Ray. ''Never''. He never complains about anything. But you could see after the third that he wasn't coming back from those shots on the head. And he wasn't punching the way he had been. The heat was sucking the strength from his body.

''Do you think his age had anything to do with it''? the News guy persisted.

''It could be'' said Arcel. ''Age goes a long way in this business. I mean it goes a long way to beat you''.

''Do you think the referee made a mistake in stopping it''? another question

Thats not for me to say said Arcel. ''I talk only for the corner. But I wasn't sorry to see it over''.

To soothe his aching limbs and broken face, ex champ Zale went home with 40% of the gate- $140,682.
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Old 10-18-2009, 04:23 AM #2
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i have this mega-rare fight
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Old 10-18-2009, 05:33 PM #3
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You sure you have 2 and not 3? If so please post up!!!!
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:10 PM #4
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I don't see why you had to create a new acccount to start posting these qoutes,why not just use your SOUTHPAW16BF account?




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You sure you have 2 and not 3? If so please post up!!!!
He posts the same damn thing every single time a fight is brought up,you follow up on his original claim and he will never respond.Go to the video trading section and you will see the same old "I have this fight" comments floating around down there.
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Old 10-18-2009, 08:13 PM #5
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I don't see why you had to create a new acccount to start posting these qoutes,why not just use your SOUTHPAW16BF account?






He posts the same damn thing every single time a fight is brought up,you follow up on his original claim and he will never respond.Go to the video trading section and you will see the same old "I have this fight" comments floating around down there.
Must say I would find it suprising as my belief was that neither of the 1st two Zale Graziano fights were filmed.
Know your new but there seems something familiar about you just can't put my finger on it....
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I do have footage of the second fight but it's not much.
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Old 10-19-2009, 03:31 AM #8
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I don't see why you had to create a new acccount to start posting these qoutes,why not just use your SOUTHPAW16BF account?






He posts the same damn thing every single time a fight is brought up,you follow up on his original claim and he will never respond.Go to the video trading section and you will see the same old "I have this fight" comments floating around down there.
i have collected fight-films for over 35yrs and have over 20,000+ fights on DVD.. i have Zale vs Graziano 2 & 3
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:03 AM #9
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He posts the same damn thing every single time a fight is brought up,you follow up on his original claim and he will never respond.Go to the video trading section and you will see the same old "I have this fight" comments floating around down there.
there is very little which i dont have in my collection
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