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Old 07-21-2009, 12:26 AM #1
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... Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran.

These names I never stop hearing in any boxing discussion, and there's obviously a reason for that. Besides Hagler-Hearns (which I didn't enjoy as much as I thought), I'm very keen to see the other fights they had between them. So far I've been a firm '90s-'00s boxing fan, but I feel as though I absolutely must broaden my knowledge.

Therefore could somebody compile a list for me which places each and every fight of theirs in 'must-see' order, starting from the best one? This means all fights they had with each other, but not against others - at least not yet. One thing at a time.

I'd really appreciate anyone's efforts on this. :smile1:
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:36 AM #2
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Well you alreayd saw Hearns-Hagler, that was the best fight out of the bunch really.

Besides Hagler-Hearns to me this is the order.

1. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler
2. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 1
3. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 1
4. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 2 (The No Mas Fight)
5. Tommy Hearns vs Roberto Duran
6. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 2
7. Marvin Hagler vs Roberto Duran
8. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 3
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1. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Marvin Hagler
2. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 1
3. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 1
4. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 2 (The No Mas Fight)
5. Tommy Hearns vs Roberto Duran
6. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Tommy Hearns 2
7. Marvin Hagler vs Roberto Duran
8. Sugar Ray Leonard vs Roberto Duran 3
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Are they mainly 15-round distance fights, are or there some KOs/stoppages in there?
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:46 AM #4
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please bear-in-mind that Hearns broke his famous right hand in the opening round against Hagler...
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:53 AM #5
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it was not just their great fights against eachother there was other fights that made these fighters the legends that they are like :
Hearns v Benitez
Duran v Benitez
Leonard v Benitez
Duran v Barkley
Hearns v Barkley 1 & 2
Duran v Moore
Leonard v LaLonde
Hagler v Antuofermo 1
Duran v Palomino
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Are they mainly 15-round distance fights, are or there some KOs/stoppages in there?
I won't spoil them for you but yeah, there are a few stoppages in there.
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... Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran.

These names I never stop hearing in any boxing discussion, and there's obviously a reason for that. Besides Hagler-Hearns (which I didn't enjoy as much as I thought), I'm very keen to see the other fights they had between them. So far I've been a firm '90s-'00s boxing fan, but I feel as though I absolutely must broaden my knowledge.

Therefore could somebody compile a list for me which places each and every fight of theirs in 'must-see' order, starting from the best one? This means all fights they had with each other, but not against others - at least not yet. One thing at a time.

I'd really appreciate anyone's efforts on this. :smile1:
Get the book Four Kings by George Kimball. It gives a detailed account of each fight between the four in complete detail before, during and after. It also details each fighter's rise to prominence
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Not including their fights with each other, I recommend watching these fights of them to either see really good fights, or some of their best performances/most significant fights.
  • Marvin Hagler: John Mugabi, Tony Sibson, Mustafa Hamsho (both fights), Caveman Lee
  • Roberto Duran: Iran Barkley, Esteban Dejesus (all 3 just for the hell of it), Davey Moore, Carlos Palomino, Pipino Cuevas
  • Ray Leonard: Davey Boy Green, Wilfred Benitez, Andy Price, Floyd Mayweather
  • Thomas Hearns: Pipino Cuevas, Wilfred Benitez, Virgil Hill, James Shuler, Iran Barkley (especially the first fight).

Among the Fab 4, Hagler-Hearns and Leonard-Duran 1 are the best fights. Leonard-Hearns 1 is tactical in large part, but great for shifts in momentum, and the fact that it's two undefeated ATGs at/near the top of their game. I actually thought their rematch was better in terms of action.

Leonard-Duran 3 is a horrible fight.
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1. Hagler-Hearns is a terrific fight
2. Next Best is Leonard-Hearns 1
3. Then Leonard-Duran 1
4. Then maybe Duran-Hagler


Didn't really care for the others, Leonard-Hagler wasnt much good IMO and Leonard
Duran 3 is crap, so obvious both were there for the payday, and roberto legs looked to weigh about 120 kilos each from the way he moved
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and of course i hate watching Hearns-Duran...
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