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Old 07-10-2009, 10:18 AM #1
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Sixth installment:


1. Ray Robinson 1,486-440-74 (799) .762
2. Bob Fitzsimmons 1,469-470-61 (1,115) .750
3. Marvin Hagler 1,319-555-126 (704) .691
4. Carlos Monzon 1,278-632-90 (625) .662
5. Stanley Ketchel 1,210-742-48 (961) .617
6. Bernard Hopkins 1,147-749-104 (629) .600
7. Mickey Walker 1,139-799-62 (656) .585
8. Charley Burley 1,111-796-93 (490) .579
9. Holman Williams 1,100-784-116 (268) .579
10. Harry Greb 1,083-820-97 (575) .566
11. Marcel Cerdan 876-1,035-89 (401) .460
12. Winky Wright 820-1,021-159 (243) .450
13. Jake LaMotta 820-1,042-138 (322) .445
14. Tony Zale 824-1,093-83 (409) .433
15. Mike Gibbons 756-1,133-111 (224) .406
16. Panama Joe Gans 734-1,147-119 (276) .397
17. Les Darcy 706-1,170-124 (280) .384
18. James Toney 630-1,288-82 (289) .336
19. Nigel Benn 629-1,326-45 (359) .326
20. Mike McCallum 561-1,334-105 (274) .307
21. Terry Norris 313-1,635-52 (140) .170
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Old 07-10-2009, 10:44 AM #2
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Old 07-10-2009, 11:35 AM #3
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Can see you've been busy Poet.. Interesting to see Bobby boy at no2.. Need to brush up on his career at MW.. This will give me good reason to do so, as I've just purchased yet another boxing history book (History of the fight game, by Peter Brooke-Ball) However, have discovered 1 or 2 minor inaccuracies already: ie 2 draws on Nigel Benns resume.. Good to see my 'homeboy' made the list though!
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Old 07-10-2009, 03:33 PM #4
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Sixth installment:


1. Ray Robinson 1,486-440-74 (799) .762
2. Bob Fitzsimmons 1,469-470-61 (1,115) .750
3. Marvin Hagler 1,319-555-126 (704) .691
4. Carlos Monzon 1,278-632-90 (625) .662
5. Stanley Ketchel 1,210-742-48 (961) .617
6. Bernard Hopkins 1,147-749-104 (629) .600
7. Mickey Walker 1,139-799-62 (656) .585
8. Charley Burley 1,111-796-93 (490) .579
9. Holman Williams 1,100-784-116 (268) .579
10. Harry Greb 1,083-820-97 (575) .566
11. Marcel Cerdan 876-1,035-89 (401) .460
12. Winky Wright 820-1,021-159 (243) .450
13. Jake LaMotta 820-1,042-138 (322) .445
14. Tony Zale 824-1,093-83 (409) .433
15. Mike Gibbons 756-1,133-111 (224) .406
16. Panama Joe Gans 734-1,147-119 (276) .397
17. Les Darcy 706-1,170-124 (280) .384
18. James Toney 630-1,288-82 (289) .336
19. Nigel Benn 629-1,326-45 (359) .326
20. Mike McCallum 561-1,334-105 (274) .307
21. Terry Norris 313-1,635-52 (140) .170
Can't see how Greb doesn't even make the top 6?
Nice to see Holman Williams getting a mention but as much respect as I have for him I think 9th is too high.
Fitz is a tricky one to categorise as he was a bit of a jack of all trades, he would probably be best as a light heavy but didn't fight too many at that weight and it was a the *** end of his career. Fitz would ironically rate higher as p4p then he would neccessarily in a particular weight category IMO.
Again a big fan of his but number 2 at middleweight above Ketchel, Greb, Hagler, Monzon, not so sure about that?
Lots of food for thought with the MW's.
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Old 07-11-2009, 10:49 AM #6
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Fitz is a tricky one to categorise as he was a bit of a jack of all trades, he would probably be best as a light heavy but didn't fight too many at that weight and it was a the *** end of his career.
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Old 07-11-2009, 11:03 AM #7
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I don't agree that Bob and Ray should be that high...
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Old 07-11-2009, 03:23 PM #8
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i dint agree with ray that high,

imo the greatest MW is either hagler, monzon, or greb
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i dint agree with ray that high,

imo the greatest MW is either hagler, monzon, or greb
And yet, if you poll boxing historians as to who the greatest Middleweight was the majority would rate Robinson.....

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