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Old 06-30-2009, 03:47 PM #1
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Default Vitali Klitschko vs Muhammad Ali

Can Vitali's style, and cast iron chin cause Ali trouble?

who takes this fight?

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Old 06-30-2009, 03:51 PM #2
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dumb question. if u didnt have glen johnson in your sig and nate campbell in your avatar i would red k your ass. ali stops him, eighter on cuts or just out of mercy for vitali who would be completely outmatched from the ifrst bell to the last. i mean seriously who is on vitalis resume to say eh can compete with ali? gomez and sanders are his only good wins, dont quite cut it in my book.

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Old 06-30-2009, 03:55 PM #3
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dumb question. if u didnt have nate campbell in your sig i would red k you. ali stops him, eighter on cuts or just out of mercy for vitali who would be completely outmatched from the ifrst bell to the last. i mean seriously who is on vitalis resume to say eh can compete with ali? gomez and sanders are his only good wins, dont quite cut it in my book.
but ali struggled with lesser fighters than vitali, like doug jones and henry cooper.. vitali hasnt even really been beat properly, was beating chris byrd until his shoulder went and was leading on the scorecards against lewis before he was stopped on cuts.

so the way your making out is if i've said if tye fields vs ali!
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:32 PM #4
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but ali struggled with lesser fighters than vitali, like doug jones and henry cooper.. vitali hasnt even really been beat properly, was beating chris byrd until his shoulder went and was leading on the scorecards against lewis before he was stopped on cuts.

so the way your making out is if i've said if tye fields vs ali!
The problem is that we don't how good the Klitshcko brothers are, and we may never know. Ali certainly had problems against lesser fighters for, among other reasons, he wasn't motivated and didn't bring his A game. Now that's stupid, I grant you that, but it is what it is.

The only fight we have that we can begin to tell how either K brother would do against a quality opponent was Vitali's fight against Lewis. And he lost that fight.

I would love to know that the Ks were more than good fighters in a weak age. If Wladimar jabs an aggressive, determined Haye into the ground; and doesn't get flustered when hit; and then beats other up-and-coming fighters who, in the post-K era are considered quality fighters then and only then can we begin to compare either K to Ali.
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Since I already ran this for Ali Vs. Wlad here is the results for Ali Vs. Vitlali:


Title Bout II

Muhammed Ali 93-5-2 with 62 stoppages
Vitali Klitschko 5-93-2 with 3 stoppages


Data Boxing

Muhammed Ali 91-9-0 with 88 stoppgaes
Vitali Klitschko 9-91-0 with 7 stoppages
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Since I already ran this for Ali Vs. Wlad here is the results for Ali Vs. Vitlali:


Title Bout II

Muhammed Ali 93-5-2 with 62 stoppages
Vitali Klitschko 5-93-2 with 3 stoppages


Data Boxing

Muhammed Ali 91-9-0 with 88 stoppgaes
Vitali Klitschko 9-91-0 with 7 stoppages

I know nothing of these programs. Do they have stats on known match-ups? Or do you have to run them to?

Example: Dempsey-Tunney; Ali-Frazier and the like?
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I know nothing of these programs. Do they have stats on known match-ups? Or do you have to run them to?

Example: Dempsey-Tunney; Ali-Frazier and the like?
I'd have to run them. No big deal doing it though.

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Since I already ran this for Ali Vs. Wlad here is the results for Ali Vs. Vitlali:


Title Bout II

Muhammed Ali 93-5-2 with 62 stoppages
Vitali Klitschko 5-93-2 with 3 stoppages


Data Boxing

Muhammed Ali 91-9-0 with 88 stoppgaes
Vitali Klitschko 9-91-0 with 7 stoppages
what are you going on about? explain
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what are you going on about? explain
Another thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=284921

I ran two computer simulations of Muhammed Ali Vs. Wladimir Klitschko of 100 bouts each. Since you have THIS thread running I also ran it for Ali Vs. Vitali and posted the results.

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Another thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=284921

I ran two computer simulations of Muhammed Ali Vs. Wladimir Klitschko of 100 bouts each. Since you have THIS thread running I also ran it for Ali Vs. Vitali and posted the results.

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but i still dont understand it, how does it come up with the results?
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