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Old 04-22-2009, 03:21 PM #1
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:22 PM #2
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Old 04-22-2009, 03:27 PM #3
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These were uploaded by baltazarbrothers (formerly jmc713) who has a great boxing collection.

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Old 04-26-2009, 08:46 AM #4
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Footage of Sugar Ray Robinson as a welterweight in his title defense against Charley Fusari:







He had trouble making the weight at this point of his career.
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:17 PM #5
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He had trouble making the weight at this point of his career.
** Can't figure why he didn't strip his shorts down and spit out his gum.

This his last welt fight. 2nd to last was the Gavilan title fight with 13 middle bouts in between.

Fusari a modest boxer with a good record fairly padded out. He's unwilling to go after the title and Robinson content to lay outside and box relaxed. More feints than punches and more bouncing around outside than anything.

Not a flattering fight. Fusari 2-4 after this and retires. The other guys look like muscled up stiffs. I'm fairly sure Ray boxed to the level of his threat, and Fusari was zero threat, plus he seemed to have a friendship with Charley.
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** Can't figure why he didn't strip his shorts down and spit out his gum.

This his last welt fight. 2nd to last was the Gavilan title fight with 13 middle bouts in between.

Fusari a modest boxer with a good record fairly padded out. He's unwilling to go after the title and Robinson content to lay outside and box relaxed. More feints than punches and more bouncing around outside than anything.

Not a flattering fight. Fusari 2-4 after this and retires. The other guys look like muscled up stiffs. I'm fairly sure Ray boxed to the level of his threat, and Fusari was zero threat, plus he seemed to have a friendship with Charley.
For some reason the film doesn't show Robinson knocking down Fusari and hurting him a couple of times throughout the fight.

More moments of the fight at 2:20 of this video:



Fusari was not one of Robinson's best challengers although he did once beat Rocky Castellani but lost most of the time when he stepped up in class. I've heard rumours that Robinson "carried" Fusari for the 15 round distance although I'm not certain whether this is true or not.

Most of the opponents were nobodies except for the great middleweight contender Robert Villemain whom Robinson KO's in the second video that I posted in this thread.
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The other opponents were Jean Stock (first vid), a decent European level competitor who once stopped a young Randy Turpin, an over the hill Jean Walzack (4th vid) and Hans Stretz (3rd vid), the German middleweight and light heavyweight champion.
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Glad you posted this, Manchine. Maybe when people see this footage of a younger more explosive Robinson they will stop starting threads, on the line "What's so special about Ray Robinson?".

His fights after 1955 are a testament to what amazing athlete he was, even when he was not superman anymore, he still had so much fight left in him...
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Glad you posted this, Manchine. Maybe when people see this footage of a younger more explosive Robinson they will stop starting threads, on the line "What's so special about Ray Robinson?".

His fights after 1955 are a testament to what amazing athlete he was, even when he was not superman anymore, he still had so much fight left in him...
Not to mention the ubiquitous "Robinson had no defense" lines when the only footage of Robinson they've seen is the last round of the second Turpin fight when Ray was going all-out for the KO.

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