Arum is an old crusty man who has a lot of enemies and haters but I've said for the longest the people predicting his company's demise are fools. He will be a major player in boxing until the day he dies. Hate him all you want he has a formula an eye for talent and how to develop that talent. He lost some big names no doubt but he has enough young talent to keep him relevant for the foreseeable future.
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Originally posted by aldo5408 View PostI think that Haymon's fighters Vazquez, Spence will become bigger than those guys you mentioned. Because these guys are Americans.
An have a good story or are charismatic. Bud is great but he has no charisma and only sells tickets in Omaha.
As for Vasquez, I really like him and think he is highly skilled, I just dont see where he fits in, in the Welterweight division, the only thing I envision is him getting the losers bracket, like the loser of Porter vs Thurman or whoever loses to Broner next but I dont see him fighting anyone of note for a while. His inactivity will hurt his chances of becoming a star. Hope Im wrong but its just my opinion.
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Originally posted by bigdunny1 View PostArum is an old crusty man who has a lot of enemies and haters but I've said for the longest the people predicting his company's demise are fools. He will be a major player in boxing until the day he dies. Hate him all you want he has a formula an eye for talent and how to develop that talent. He lost some big names no doubt but he has enough young talent to keep him relevant for the foreseeable future.
People don't realize it but the Ali act was made so Promoters dont act as managers but now you have mangers acting as promoters which in turn kinda turns boxing into socialism. Spreading the waelth kinda leaves us in null because no one wants to better themselves, they have 1 of 5 belts, make good money, so why risk it?
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And this is what I don't understand. Haymon managed to secure all the GBP top fighters before Schaefer left and fanboys kept predicting the eventual disappearance of TR/HBO. It appears PBC is the one still struggling to make it big. The two Danny's, Jacobs and Garcia, are heading towards one fight a year status. Their wins didn't lead to anything big.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostAs for Vasquez, I really like him and think he is highly skilled, I just dont see where he fits in, in the Welterweight division, the only thing I envision is him getting the losers bracket, like the loser of Porter vs Thurman or whoever loses to Broner next but I dont see him fighting anyone of note for a while. His inactivity will hurt his chances of becoming a star. Hope Im wrong but its just my opinion.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostItd be his first notable win but Petersons better days are behind him @140, hes like the 140lb Berto.
Certainly I agree Lamont isn't peak Lamont, but that'd be a huge win for Vasquez & I think that'd be a better win than anything Spence has done.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostHate on Arum all you want but if Crawford wins and wins big which I am predicting, and with Loma looking spectacular this passed weekend, we all could be looking at the NEXT Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao. Thoughts?
I know its a lil early to call it but both these guys have the skills to pay the bills. And what better Promoter is there to make a stars than Mr. Bob Arum?
All these other promoters out there should take out a pen and notepad and take notes because the old man has a tiny stable but head to head its hard to match him...
Lomachenko the next Pacquiao? HAHAHAHA. Pacquiao was a charismatic, athletic, power puncher with a huge Filipino fan base. Lomachenko is Ukrainian with no fan base, a very good technical boxer with so-so power and no personality who is not nearly as exciting or entertaining as Pac.
So no, Crawford and Loma are not the next Floyd and Manny.
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Originally posted by BennyBlanco View PostCrawford the next Mayweather? HAHAHAHAHA. Sure, he's a smallish African-American, but that's where the similarities end. Crawford has the personality and charisma of a houseplant. His interviews on The Fight Game and other places are painfully boring.
Lomachenko the next Pacquiao? HAHAHAHA. Pacquiao was a charismatic, athletic, power puncher with a huge Filipino fan base. Lomachenko is Ukrainian with no fan base, a very good technical boxer with so-so power and no personality who is not nearly as exciting or entertaining as Pac.
So no, Crawford and Loma are not the next Floyd and Manny.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostIMO Spence will be in a tuff situation, the winner of Vargas vs. Brook will demand a Garcia fight (and rightfully so) and I think they will get it. It wont matter what ranking Spence has because he will just be put on the back burner or fight for a vacated belt if Brook or Vargas are forced to vacate if they fight Garcia. Either way it does no justice for Spence. I kinda picture Spence as this era's Vernon Forrest...
But Haymon controls Garcia, so he's not going to give a Top Rank or Matchroom fighter the Garcia fight if it would leave Spence and Thurman out in the cold.
More likely, Spence gets Vargas-Brook winner - since Spence is the IBF mandatory, which will be held by the winner of Vargas-Brook - and Garcia will get the winner of Thurman-Porter.
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