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  • People don't realize how big these super heavies are. Old era fighters couldnt hang..

    Look at this pictures of Anthony Joshua and Carl Froch. Now Carl is 6'1" which would have made him tall in the old heavyweight divisions and he is dwarfed




  • #2
    They were tougher back then. Size, reach and height can only go so far. I believe Tyson, Frazier and Ken Norton beat all current HWs. AJ is a bit like Bruno, big but a lumbering robot with no finesse. Also, see:

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    • #3
      And Joseph Parker is the size of George Foreman who was at the time one of the biggest Heavyweights in boxing.

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      • #4
        all new boxing f@g fans care about is size size size. joshua has **** stamina. slow, stiff, chinny, & has no clue what footwork is. look at how much chin, heart, footwork ali had? not the ali of the 80s but the ali of the late 60's. the guy was a freak. no one wants to hear about your size obsession.

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        • #5
          They are definitely bigger now with a lot of scientific supplements behind them too, but those HW back in the days were lighter and faster. They use to call Foreman a mummy in the 70’s but even he move around better than the ones we see nowadays.

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          • #6
            This is pretty obvious! There is a reason why weight divisions exist and not stamina divisions, skill divisions, experience divisions and so forth so on. This is because weight is the most decisive factor which determines who wins a boxing bout between two opposing boxers.

            Since the late 1980's, boxing, especially the heavyweight division has changed significantly. Boxers from the late 1980's up to today are almost a new breed. They are modern heavyweights whilst majority of the boxers before that period wouldn't even be allowed to box against some of the modern heavyweights. There aren't much differences between boxers of the late 1980's and 1990's compared to the boxers of the 20th or 21st century. However, prior to the 1980's, heavyweights are significantly different to the point where majority wouldn't even qualify as heavyweights today.

            Those who are claiming ancient boxers like Ken Norton, Ali and so forth so on would beat modern heavyweights are merely fantasizing. Those claims aren't really based on any objective / factual evidence. It's more likely based on nostalgia. The idea that when athletes in practically every other athletic sports are improving and the same wouldn't be the case with boxers is extremely irrational, naive and delusional. Things have advanced in the modern era compared to past eras. Nutrition has advanced. Training methodologies have advanced. Tactics and styles have advanced and so forth so on. Therefore, it's more feasible to infer that athletes in boxing have also advanced, rather than vice versa. Those who are clinging on to nostalgia so dearly are free to remain in the past whilst real boxing fans who want to move forward or live in the present can enjoy modern boxers more.

            Many of those complaints against modern heavyweights are irrational. The expectations of modern heavyweights by those complainers are also irrational. Of course a 6 foot 3 inches + and a 240 pound+ modern heavyweight isn't going to be EXACTLY as fast as the fastest sub 200 pound boxer who is less than 6 foot 4 inches in height. Nor are they going have the EXACT same level of endurance as those guys. However, the modern 6 foot 3 inches + and 240 pound + heavyweights are generally FAR more athletic than the ancient 6 foot 3 inches + and 240 pound + heavyweights. Compare like for like and the results will be more appropriate.

            Modern sized heavyweights don't need to be exactly as fast as ancient heavyweights. Nor do they need the exact same level of endurance. They have other more SIGNIFICANT advantages which make up for the deficiencies in those departments where they may relative lack in.

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            • #7
              Joshua reminds of Michael Grant, tall guy with a muscular physique, both were stiffs with weak chins. Joshua is lucky that he's in the era of really crappy HWs. If a young Grant was active right now, he would be in the same position as Joshua.

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              • #8
                When Deontay Wilder won the WBC world heavyweight championship, he weighed 219 pounds.

                Three decades ago, when Mike Tyson won the WBC world heavyweight championship, he weighed 221 pounds.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by baroidi View Post
                  Joshua reminds of Michael Grant, tall guy with a muscular physique, both were stiffs with weak chins. Joshua is lucky that he's in the era of really crappy HWs. If a young Grant was active right now, he would be in the same position as Joshua.
                  Grant wouldnt have even got past a guy like brezeale let alone klitschko.

                  If anyone is like michael grant its wilder

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    When Deontay Wilder won the WBC world heavyweight championship, he weighed 219 pounds.

                    Three decades ago, when Mike Tyson won the WBC world heavyweight championship, he weighed 221 pounds.
                    Yeah but wilder sucks and we will see that when joshua does him some permenant harm in the ring.

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