New Zealand Senator blames the Muslims for the Mosque attacks

[krazyn8tive]

Muslims conduct terrorist attacks/kill a bunch of people in Europe...public reaction = “meh”

White dude conducts terrorist attack/kills a bunch of Muslims in New Zealand...public reaction = “white nationalism! Ban guns!! Islam is the religion of peace!!!”

How did we get here?

[1bad65]

Muslims conduct terrorist attacks/kill a bunch of people in Europe...public reaction = “meh”

White dude conducts terrorist attack/kills a bunch of Muslims in New Zealand...public reaction = “white nationalism! Ban guns!! Islam is the religion of peace!!!”

How did we get here?

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." -Dresden James

[-Kev-]

He sounds like Trump lol. He actually sounds very American. If he could run for pres of the US he'd win it easily.

[Lomasexual]

Out of curiosity, do you guys have hate speech laws in Australia? Because for sure you would be in jail for saying out loud or even typing it on the internet that you hate Islam if you were in most EU countries.

We have a kind of mash-up of laws which can include things termed as hate speech.

For example, there has been a lot of debate about Section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act:

(1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:

(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and

(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.

Although we have had some reasonably sensible judgments where the judge was very clear that islam is not a race, and is therefore not protected by this kind of legislation.
Judges have also been pretty consistent with the above legislation, in saying that it can only apply where there is a significant impact.

But 18C has been used as a weapon by activists, and done damage to innocent people.

https://theconversation.com/qut-disc...failings-68235

I hate to think how much worse it would be if the laws become more draconian.

[krazyn8tive]

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." -Dresden James

Islam, no matter what country the believer is from or the skin color of the believer, is the religion of forced submission. There is no wiggle room. No room for error. The United Nations and the complicit media machine is leading the masses to believe otherwise. I will not be lulled to sleep.

[KEY LOW]

Out of curiosity, do you guys have hate speech laws in Australia? Because for sure you would be in jail for saying out loud or even typing it on the internet that you hate Islam if you were in most EU countries.

I thought this happened in new zealand.

[Lomasexual]

yes yes i see where your coming from,my friend spent a year in australia,told me you have a lot of syrians there

A lot more Somalians and Sudanese, and these are the ones that are the public face of the immigration debate.

[Lomasexual]

I thought this happened in new zealand.

It did.

But the main perpetrator was Australian, and the Senator who made the comment was Australian (despite the title of this thread).

['b']

Such a shame it had to resort to violence, there will be retaliatory attacks from ISIS now against innocent people.

If the world truly believed in freedom, why not give this man his wish of an ethno-state? Have a nation of Muslims only, whites only, blacks only, conservatives only, liberals only, Christians only, Jews only, Buddhists only etc. No-one ever suggests this idea, but that is what true freedom would be. Allow people to choose where they want to live, and if the current multi-culturalism of the west is fine with you, then we can keep living how we live but let those who disagree go somewhere else, give them a choice.

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Such a shame it had to resort to violence, there will be retaliatory attacks from ISIS now against innocent people.

If the world truly believed in freedom, why not give this man his wish of an ethno-state? Have a nation of Muslims only, whites only, blacks only, conservatives only, liberals only, Christians only, Jews only, Buddhists only etc. No-one ever suggests this idea, but that is what true freedom would be. Allow people to choose where they want to live, and if the current multi-culturalism of the west is fine with you, then we can keep living how we live but let those who disagree go somewhere else, give them a choice.

It's discussed often. Anti-globalism? Nationalism? Many terms for allowing human populations to freely self-determine their own fates without forced mass migration nor forced membership to regional blocs.

What happens when it's attempted?

First of all you are called a supremacist. It doesn't make much sense to call people who just want to be left alone and opt out of the chaos "supremacists", but that's the justification used to censor and physically attack them.

If you make it far enough to be considered a threat? Jackbooted thugs stomp your grandmothers like they did in Catalonia. The FBI frames you & kills your family like they did to Randy Weaver. You find out your "free to leave the EU at any time" country isn't allowed to leave and your democratic votes mean nothing. Depends on the severity.

This is the future of the Western world. 1,000 terror attacks and gangrapes against the native populations until one mentally unstable guy snaps and goes for revenge — which is used to justify increasing the invasion & stricter government, which in turn pushes another unstable guy over the edge, and so on.

The alliance between global corporate organizations (who see borders/nations as nothing more than an obstacle to their profit chart) & the left-wing parties they fund (who literally import new voters every time they run out of native-born ones) is powerful beyond measure. It's a perfect symbiotic system for causing human misery.