Ronald Reagan vs Bill Clinton

[Phenom]

More total net jobs were created during Reagan's tenure. This is without even looking at correlation-causation...which is what I'm really interested in.

Also any Govt/Public sector jobs that were created under either president does not count as a real job. It's a net drain to the economy and the private sector which finances it. This is important to keep in mind as Leftists conflate real jobs [private sector] with parasitical public/govt jobs.

Anything good that happened during Carter's presidency economically happened in spite of his policies, not because of them.

You're comparing 8 years to 4 and still its not that big of a gap pick one of Reagan terms compared to Carters one and Jimmy Carter created more jobs average it out by year and still Jimmy carter created more jobs

You could go on about leftiest all you want but that wont change the facts liberals don't control math

[Phenom]

I'm also not a big fan of this tit-for-tat, my president Vs your president debates. I'm not a Reagan shill.

He had the right intentions and ideology...but obviously wasn't pure enough for my taste. He also was too compromising which cost him some points. He agreed to a tax increase for spending reductions deal and the end result was that the tax increases went into effect immediately and the spending cuts never happened in real terms since agreeing to gradual spending reductions are not real cuts in spending. They just decrease the rate of growth...which is like saying that a Fat person weighing 200 pounds was gonna blow up to 300 pounds with his/her current diet, but instead they only blew up to 250.

I was just always curious why conservatives held Reagan as a God like figure always bring up The Eleventh Commandment and what would Reagan do when the republicans elected atleast 3 presidents that ranked higher by most historians

[Enayze]

You're comparing 8 years to 4 and still its not that big of a gap pick one of Reagan terms compared to Carters one and Jimmy Carter created more jobs average it out by year and still Jimmy carter created more jobs

You could go on about leftiest all you want but that wont change the facts liberals don't control math

There is a difference between Carter creating jobs that are in government, like tax inspector, vs someone in the private industry which actually produces fruits for the economy. More than half the jobs created under Obama are also in the public sector, aka taxes from the private sector pay for these jobs, aka not a true reflection of a healthy economy.

[Hype job]

There is a difference between Carter creating jobs that are in government, like tax inspector, vs someone in the private industry which actually produces fruits for the economy. More than half the jobs created under Obama are also in the public sector, aka taxes from the private sector pay for these jobs, aka not a true reflection of a healthy economy.

Public sector has produced plenty of fruits for the economy over the years.

[Enayze]

Public sector has produced plenty of fruits for the economy over the years.

[Hype job]

The internet, public schooling, NASA, etc etc were all public sector enterprises.

[Enayze]

The internet, public schooling, NASA, etc etc were all public sector enterprises.

Yeah except non of those things were started under the Jimmy Carter administration, so...

[One_Tycoon]

You're comparing 8 years to 4 and still its not that big of a gap pick one of Reagan terms compared to Carters one and Jimmy Carter created more jobs average it out by year and still Jimmy carter created more jobs

You could go on about leftiest all you want but that wont change the facts liberals don't control math

I don't think playing snarky Leftist is working out for you. you're not smart enough or knowledgeable enough for that and will fall flat on your face.

Math is not on your side. You posted a meaningless chart without any correlation/causation or what kind of jobs were created and why were they created.

If you raise taxes and regulations on a business [which is like putting a rope around someone's neck cutting off their air supply, while sitting on their back at the same time and still expecting them to keep going]....and that business still happens to create some jobs and manage to profit, that does not mean that taxes and regulations were the reason for said job creation. It means that it happened in spite of them. And that if that rope and additional weight wasn't there to begin with...maybe even more jobs could have been created.

[One_Tycoon]

I was just always curious why conservatives held Reagan as a God like figure always bring up The Eleventh Commandment and what would Reagan do when the republicans elected atleast 3 presidents that ranked higher by most historians

Most historians have a built in Leftist bias by default and score points for things that shouldn't even be considered a good thing.

For example...FDR should be considered the worst president of all time. The New Deal was not a positive thing that he should get brownie points for. It set a BAD precedent for future presidents to spend, spend and spend and increase the size and scope of govt and be justified in doing so...because look.... FDR did it and he was apparently one of the great presidents, so it's okay. We're still suffering from The Old New Deal's policies and some ppl are talking about a New New Deal, with 19 trillion in debt and running.

If these "historians" actually knew some economics, they would know that the New Deal prolonged the Great depression, when it could have been over much sooner had the govt simply stayed out of it. Compared to the Depression of 1920-21...which ended in only a year because the Govt didn't intervene as much and let the free market sort itself out. In fact by the time they decided to intervene with "govt programs" it was too late, the economy already recovered by itself.

[Zaroku]

Ronald R is my hero!