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  • #11
    Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
    I see multiple threads about "WHY ARE PEOPLE ATTACKING JOSHUA" AND "IF HE WAS AMERICAN HE WOULD BE A TOP 10 ATG HEAVYWEIGHT"...Come on man, he beat Charles Martin for the IBF, beat a 40 year old Wlad coming off of a loss and a 2 year layoff for the vacant WBA, Then beat Parker for the WBO...Why should everyone be sucking him off exactly?? Seems like some posters want him crowned king before he even proves himself King...The guy is still very unproven and has to keep putting in the work to get his respect..
    Not having this Larry

    Have people forgotten Martin himself was cherry picked by that hoe Duva in order to gift her fighter Glazkov with a title, hence petitioning the IBF to strip Fury? Martin deserved to win that simply because him winning backfired Duva's cherry pick. And if Martin is frowned upon by you guys, why didn't Wilder unify the IBF and WBC titles with Martin instead, considering Martin won the title on Wilder's undercard? Why didn't Haymon put the money up for that and let Wilder collect 2 belts?

    Wlad was coming off a loss yes and was inactive but only having been dicked around by Fury who pissed his career away on drugs and kebabs. Who was Joshua supposed to fight instead of Wlad? It made all the sense in the world - titles on the line, 90,000 at Wembley, former heavyweight king and the fight delivered. And also, an old Wlad is a greater fighter than an old Ortiz yet one gets **** on and the other gets hyped up

    Another funny thing is when Fury beat Wlad and papped it from the rematch, people were saying "Fury fluked a win over Wlad, he's ducking the rematch, he can't beat him, he took drugs to duck" etc now years later, the same Fury accused of fluking past Wlad and ducking the rematch is all of a sudden a genuine threat to Wilder. WTF?

    Parker was prime, undefeated, the WBO title and brought in New Zealand money, plus it was a 3 belt unification. Again, who should Joshua have fought at the time instead?

    Funny thing is if Wilder had Wlad, Parker, Martis and 3 titles on his resume, you'd be calling him the fighter of the decade but when Wilder was feasting on bums for the first 37, YES 37, fights of his career, you boys stayed church mouse silent.

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    • #12
      Parker, Whyte,Wlad,Martin,Takem,Povetkin is not some ATG list sorry

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      • #13
        Kind of like how Broner being a "Four division champ" doesn't make him a candidate for fighter of the decade.

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        • #14
          what are ur thoughts on those that claim wilder is the man at hw because he holds the more prestigious green belt ?

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          • #15
            Not even a fan of Joshua but it's funny how you yanks get your knickers in a twist whenever he's mentioned.

            The guy has the best resume at heavyweight, despite having the least fights and experience. He's the biggest draw, attraction and money maker, in addition to having the most belts. He is the #1 guy at heavyweight, on paper, since Fury hasn't been active and we don't know how he's gonna look on his first step back up to the top level.

            These are just the facts. Stop hating on the man.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
              Parker, Whyte,Wlad,Martin,Takem,Povetkin is not some ATG list sorry
              It most definitely isn't and that's why nobody calls it an ATG resume.

              It is however the best resume out of all the active heavyweights.

              Much better than the guy's who you say Joshua ducks.

              Wilder's resume isn't even in the top 3 right now.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by split decision View Post
                what are ur thoughts on those that claim wilder is the man at hw because he holds the more prestigious green belt ?
                yea thats just stupid
                Originally posted by john locke View Post
                not even a fan of joshua but it's funny how you yanks get your knickers in a twist whenever he's mentioned.

                The guy has the best resume at heavyweight, despite having the least fights and experience. He's the biggest draw, attraction and money maker, in addition to having the most belts. He is the #1 guy at heavyweight, on paper, since fury hasn't been active and we don't know how he's gonna look on his first step back up to the top level.

                These are just the facts. Stop hating on the man.
                not hating, i agree he is #1 right now, but some posters act like he is already a hall of fame fighter or an atg

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
                  I see multiple threads about "WHY ARE PEOPLE ATTACKING JOSHUA" AND "IF HE WAS AMERICAN HE WOULD BE A TOP 10 ATG HEAVYWEIGHT"...Come on man, he beat Charles Martin for the IBF, beat a 40 year old Wlad coming off of a loss and a 2 year layoff for the vacant WBA, Then beat Parker for the WBO...Why should everyone be sucking him off exactly?? Seems like some posters want him crowned king before he even proves himself King...The guy is still very unproven and has to keep putting in the work to get his respect..

                  i agree.

                  That's also why i don't put Crawford near the top of any P4P list and probably can say the same for Usyk and maybe Lomachenko.

                  How many of them have really beaten great fighters? Crawford has only fought B level fighters at best, no matter how many belts he has picked up in different divisions. Usyk has cleaned out a division, but how good are the other cruiserweights in reality? i'm not sure. Lomachenko's most highly regarded opponent was two divisions smaller.

                  There isn't many fighters today that you can say really proved themselves against very top opponents. The likes of Sor Rungvisai should be far ahead of guys like Crawford if we are being objective.
                  Last edited by EasternEuroFan; 11-19-2018, 10:52 AM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by larryxxx.. View Post
                    Parker, Whyte,Wlad,Martin,Takem,Povetkin is not some ATG list sorry
                    Haha! Who the hell is claiming this?

                    All i see is people saying it's the better resume at heavyweight.
                    Last edited by BodiesInFlight; 11-19-2018, 11:30 AM.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by EasternEuroFan View Post
                      i agree.

                      That's also why i don't put Crawford near the top of any P4P list and probably can say the same for Usyk and maybe Lomachenko.

                      How many of them have really beaten great fighters? Crawford has only fought B level fighters at best, no matter how many belts he has picked up in different divisions.

                      There isn't many fighters today that you can say really proved themselves against very top opponents. The likes of Sor Rungvisai should be far ahead of guys like Crawford if we are being objective.
                      Usyk and Loma have proven far more then Crawford

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