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Old 04-11-2012, 12:24 AM #11
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What level is that? Other then JCC jr because of his name, no other boxer who starts out produces a profit

And even him i highly doubt it
You're confused. These guys go pro on their own, or with little support. They're not chosen and protected like the guys you see on hbo.

It's a numbers game: so many kids go pro that some of them have to develop into solid, hardened fighters.

C'mon, man.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:28 AM #12
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You're confused. These guys go pro on their own, or with little support. They're not chosen and protected like the guys you see on hbo.

It's a numbers game: so many kids go pro that some of them have to develop into solid, hardened fighters.

C'mon, man.
Exactly, the're not making any money in the beginning, probably losing
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:36 AM #13
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its easy they turn pro and make money, They make around 300 or so a fight in the beginning that is way more then enough for like 4 months rents in mexico. So they dont have to have no backing from promoters just do it their selves, that how its usually done everywhere with no amatuer experience the promoters dont get you till they see potentiol and if you have a solid amatuer background then promoters will back you from the start.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:37 AM #14
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The Mexican style is better suited to the pros, not to that game of tag that is the amateurs.
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:17 AM #15
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1) Mexicans' stamina and durability don't factor as much in 3 rounders with headgear.
2) Most 16 year old Mexican boxers are professional
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:48 AM #16
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Old 04-11-2012, 10:54 AM #17
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All you have to do is look at the style that Amateur boxing favors. It favors a hit and not be hit style, which Mexicans really don't do. Mexican boxing has always been to take one punch to do two punches. Pretty much out will you. As of late it isn't guys with a huge punch doing well either, more of the active punchers and movers that find success. That's why amateur boxing isn't a good indication of how a fighter will do in the pros.
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Old 04-11-2012, 11:16 AM #18
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The amateur system would ruin thier style. This is exactly how it would go
Top mexican amateurs make a name in mexico working up the local ranks with the crowd entertaining pressure fighting style. Next they step up to the bigger tournaments and compete regional and international and most likely lose due to getting outboxed with the pitty pat punches scored from the amateur system.
So then being fed up with losing, the coaches turn their once pressure fighters into point system fighters and that will lose the style most mexicanos are known for. Or most likely, its how it is now and they say **** the amateurs and go straight to pro.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:49 PM #19
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There is a huge difference in the Amateur scoring system vs. Pro scoring system. One of the biggest differences is the lack of attention paid to "effectiveness" of punches landed. In the Amateur they essentially count how many punches landed by each and judge based on that which is BS.
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Old 04-12-2012, 07:14 PM #20
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unfortunately most mexicans dont have the economic means to sustain a amateur career .

Mexico doesnt have boys and girl clubs which is why you see all the greats going pro at 15

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