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  • #71
    Originally posted by StefanTosic View Post
    Take Shining for exemple, it's a horror story, but he's using it to make a movie on indians, holocaust, child molestation and what not.
    I know Kubrick changed the stories around to fit his Cultural Marxist agenda, same as the two producers changed Game of Thrones story to put it in line with Cultural Marxism, but how is that a good thing?

    Cultural Marxism: White men are evil because of the holocaust (but Kubrick's own people killed more people 10 mil in the holdomor), white men are evil because of the Indians (but Kubrick's own people are as bad if not worse to the Palestinians and other gentiles), white men are child molesters (in reality, less likely to molest than men of some other races), etc

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs
    Last edited by The Hammer; 11-15-2016, 10:12 PM.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      Kubrick claims 2001: A Space Odyssey but it was actually written by Arthur C Clarke.

      The Shining was written by Stephen King and the other movies directed by Kubrick like A Clockwork Orange were written by other people.

      Spartacus was written and produced by other people, Kubrick came in at the last minute to direct the cameras after Anthony Mann was fired.

      Kubrick is given far too much credit. All he did was direct cameras.
      actually he's right, 2001 is based from Clarke's short story The Sentinel then made into a full novel as part companion for the film. Both were different whereas the Sentinel is more plot based while 2001 is more philosophical.

      Much of his screen adaptation were changed explicitly to the point that the author were disappointed of the outcome. Burgess, the author of Clockwork almost disowned his book because of the changes. So does Stephen King. Saying Kubrick just pointed his camera is like saying Mozart just wrote melodies or Picasso just painted cubes.
      Last edited by MaD RoBoT; 11-16-2016, 12:38 AM.

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      • #73
        Didn't Kubrick start filming AI? I thought Steven Spielberg finished that one after Kubrick's death...

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        • #74
          Kubricks films are more interesting, they make you think, and its easy to watch them over and over again.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by MaD RoBoT View Post
            actually he's right, 2001 is based from Clarke's short story The Sentinel then made into a full novel as part companion for the film. Both were different whereas the Sentinel is more plot based while 2001 is more philosophical.

            Much of his screen adaptation were changed explicitly to the point that the author were disappointed of the outcome. Burgess, the author of Clockwork almost disowned his book because of the changes. So does Stephen King. Saying Kubrick just pointed his camera is like saying Mozart just wrote melodies or Picasso just painted cubes.
            Freedom literally cannot comprehend certain things so it's useless, truly.

            Plus, Kubrick, even though an Atheist, was from a Jewish family and thus the term "Cultural Marxism" by Freedom and the very reason Freedom downplays Kubrick's significance.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by spytactics View Post
              Didn't Kubrick start filming AI? I thought Steven Spielberg finished that one after Kubrick's death...
              He did. And Spielberg tried to direct it in a Kubrick fashion thus having three "parts" of the film. He did his best but I don't think that is really Spielbergs style so the movie probably fell flat in a lot of areas.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by ИATAS View Post
                Plus, Kubrick, even though an Atheist, was from a Jewish family and thus the term "Cultural Marxism" by Freedom and the very reason Freedom downplays Kubrick's significance.
                No, I like the work of many Jewish directors such as Mankiewicz, Korda, Curtiz and Wyler.

                All Cultural Marxists are atheists.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                  No, I like the work of many Jewish directors such as Mankiewicz, Korda, Curtiz and Wyler.

                  All Cultural Marxists are atheists.
                  "Cultural Marxists" is literally a made up term that means fuck all.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
                    I know Kubrick changed the stories around to fit his Cultural Marxist agenda, same as the two producers changed Game of Thrones story to put it in line with Cultural Marxism, but how is that a good thing?

                    Cultural Marxism: White men are evil because of the holocaust (but Kubrick's own people killed more people 10 mil in the holdomor), white men are evil because of the Indians (but Kubrick's own people are as bad if not worse to the Palestinians and other gentiles), white men are child molesters (in reality, less likely to molest than men of some other races), etc

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs
                    You are actually changing subject here, you started mentioning some things which are unrelated to the art of film making and to Kubrick's skills. You can say whatever you want about "his Cultural Marxsist agenda", but you simply have to agree that he did an amazing job of making a movie about history and a couple of other subjects as well, by using a horror story as a platform. It doesn't change a fact that mentioned movies are brilliant, no matter how much you disagree with Kubrick's point of view.
                    Last edited by StefanTosic; 11-16-2016, 05:29 PM.

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