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Old 09-14-2018, 10:02 PM #91
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You were going good until your American comment. I am American and don't think like that. That is a narrow minded comment.
I never said America was like that, I said that what everything that was wrong with America?

Do you really like this entitlement victim playing culture that is growing?
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Old 09-15-2018, 03:19 PM #92
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These drawings have no context so we can't judge if they are racist or not.

The context of the Serena drawing was a serious topic. Added to that, the artist made the opponent white and blonde-making it appear a white woman was being victimized by a large enraged black woman.

Further-the artist is in Australia-Serena is poised to pass Margaret Court, an Australian, for most majors if she wins another one.

Given the context, I think we can fairly make a judgement that there was a definite meaning attached to this.

Good point about context.

But some arguments in this thread focus on the exaggeration of Serena's lips and body. I was just pointing out that exaggeration of a persons features is the definition of what a cartoon is.

The way the artist changed Osaka to a white blonde i feel has also been overly scrutinized.

Either, the artist purposely made Osaka white to make it into a black vs white issue, just because he is a racist.

Or Osaka and the umpire were quite irrelevant to the point being made. That Serena had a massive tantrum.

I heard all about Serena and nothing about Osaka. No idea who she was or what she looked like. Because her achievement was completely overshadowed by Serenas behavior.

I dont buy the conspiracy connected to Margaret Court.
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Old 09-15-2018, 04:26 PM #93
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Good point about context.

But some arguments in this thread focus on the exaggeration of Serena's lips and body. I was just pointing out that exaggeration of a persons features is the definition of what a cartoon is.

The way the artist changed Osaka to a white blonde i feel has also been overly scrutinized.

Either, the artist purposely made Osaka white to make it into a black vs white issue, just because he is a racist.

Or Osaka and the umpire were quite irrelevant to the point being made. That Serena had a massive tantrum.

I heard all about Serena and nothing about Osaka. No idea who she was or what she looked like. Because her achievement was completely overshadowed by Serenas behavior.

I dont buy the conspiracy connected to Margaret Court.
Doesnt she have blond highlights?
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lol there's no way in hell he didn't make her look like a pale-as-a-ghost White, blonde female on purpose.

A lot of European countries are backwards like that, and they get away with it. I remember when Kim Kardashian went to Austria, she had people on the plane literally harassing her to her face about dating Black guys. They also set up a prank, using a dude in Blackface at some event. Some dude said he was waiting for "N****s in Vienna" too.

This was a cheap attempt to whitewash a Haitian woman, just so that they could fit it into a "Angry Black vs Calm White" narrative.

Ridiculous, really. Osaka is Black
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lol there's no way in hell he didn't make her look like a pale-as-a-ghost White, blonde female on purpose.

A lot of European countries are backwards like that, and they get away with it. I remember when Kim Kardashian went to Austria, she had people on the plane literally harassing her to her face about dating Black guys. They also set up a prank, using a dude in Blackface at some event. Some dude said he was waiting for "N****s in Vienna" too.

This was a cheap attempt to whitewash a Haitian woman, just so that they could fit it into a "Angry Black vs Calm White" narrative.

Ridiculous, really. Osaka is Black
Shes half black right?
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Shes half black right?
Yeah, that's what they call her. Half Black, half Japanese

The public, anyway

Doesn't really work that way, though. Genes, in practically most people, come from all over the place, and, well, there's not much sense in trying to use fractions and whatnot lol. Genes are spread throughout an entire human body, so how could anyone possibly quantify that, other than by listing DNA percentages (which really only indicate the presence itself).

If you have Black, you're Black. If you have Asian, you're Asian. You can be both and more at the same time. I feel all the inescapable categories are meant to divide us.

Look at a person like Canelo. People put him in the "Mexican" category, but it's clear he's a mix of quite a lot
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I never said America was like that, I said that what everything that was wrong with America?

Do you really like this entitlement victim playing culture that is growing?
I don't fell entitled. She does and will blame everything that happens to her on somebody or something else. She got her azz beat and she should take the loss.
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lol there's no way in hell he didn't make her look like a pale-as-a-ghost White, blonde female on purpose.

A lot of European countries are backwards like that, and they get away with it. I remember when Kim Kardashian went to Austria, she had people on the plane literally harassing her to her face about dating Black guys. They also set up a prank, using a dude in Blackface at some event. Some dude said he was waiting for "N****s in Vienna" too.

This was a cheap attempt to whitewash a Haitian woman, just so that they could fit it into a "Angry Black vs Calm White" narrative.

Ridiculous, really. Osaka is Black
I dont believe the artist thought he could change Osakas race to make it seem it was "angry black" vs "calm white".

His cartoon isnt going to make the millions of people watching that Osaka was white.
Plus, the battle involving Serenas meltdown was between the umpire and Serena.
He could of easily made the umpire blonde.

The umpire and opponent were just generic characters. imo.
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News Corp has come under global condemnation for publishing a racist, sexist cartoon depicting Serena Williams in its Melbourne paper.

Here's the cartoon. Notice the lips, how they're loose and open and dumb like unlike Serena's real lips and also the weight. Serena is NOT fat:

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Some say it's not racist, just a caricature. I disagree. The weight, the lips....all ripped from old Sambo cartoons. Here's one of them:

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What makes it racist for me is that they contrast her with a skinny, blonde, white cartoon opponent. Her opponent in said game was a biracial woman- a black father and an Asian mother. The blonde white opponent is a subliminal way of using the "black is evil" vs "white is pure and good" old racist tropes.
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:18 PM #100
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What makes it racist for me is that they contrast her with a skinny, blonde, white cartoon opponent. Her opponent in said game was a biracial woman- a black father and an Asian mother. The blonde white opponent is a subliminal way of using the "black is evil" vs "white is pure and good" old racist tropes.
She did have a blonde ponytail though.
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