No 1 at heavy has a good resume except Haye n Wlad so why r u trashing Wilder

[juggernaut666]

Because he's been the Undefeated WBC champion and hasnt fought proper challengers for over 2 years ,if you know boxing (IF ) you would know Washington shouldn't count either even though its his most dangerous guy hes facing yet .

You can play the top guys game of who fought who ,but no one like Wilder who holds a belt has nearly 40 fights with basically nothing to brag about. Its not just Wilder its the joke of a rankings system that lines these guys up for him , Dillian Whyte is practically his biggest nearest threat to Ortiz . Whyte can fight (another guy i said would advance for 2 years now ) and if he takes that fight IF he defeats Washington he will then have a decent resume .And he has to defeat a Whyte or same level guy ,he has nothing to show for his championship reign thus far.

[lopetego]

Wlad is a longtime former champ
Haye is a former cruiser champ and wba titlist

outside of those 2 you'd be lucky to find a heavyweight with 2 or more wins over top ten opposition

wilder has talent and gets knockouts....i thought thats what you wanted in a heavyweight and he has charisma, never in a dull fight

is it because he is an american represented by Al Haymon?

No, it's because he's a glorified bumbeater and hypejob

- Padded his record fighting bums from the alley

- Bought his # 3 WBC rank, fought an eliminator match for a title without beating anyone in the top 30,

- Brought his buddy Malik Scott to take a dive for him in said eliminator

- Beat a sick Stiverne (who also sucks) in a dull fight for Vitali's vacated title

- Has fought nothing but subpar opposition ever since

- He'ss now hiding behind his ¨no PED users¨ excuse to avoid people like Ortiz and keep fighting bums

Wilder is a fraud

[therealpugilist]

No, it's because he's a glorified bumbeater and hypejob

- Padded his record fighting bums from the alley

- Bought his # 3 WBC rank, fought an eliminator match for a title without beating anyone in the top 30,

- Brought his buddy Malik Scott to take a dive for him in said eliminator

- Beat a sick Stiverne (who also sucks) in a dull fight for Vitali's vacated title

- Has fought nothing but subpar opposition ever since

- He'ss now hiding behind his ¨no PED users¨ excuse to avoid people like Ortiz and keep fighting bums

Wilder is a fraud

They make excuses for the other glorified bum beaters

Who Ever calls out wilder?

Also when its a beloved fighter on here..."they ducking him doe"

Everyone even Ortiz, Joshua, Parker all have similar level resumes yet no major criticism on opponents....only the old guys have good resumes @ the weight

That stiverne fight was not dull IMO,

Many posters don't like fighters under Haymon...never figured that one out

[dan_cov]

Hayes HW resume is garbage. Seriously garbage.
Povetkin has a better resume as does Tyson Fury.

[lopetego]

They make excuses for the other glorified bum beaters

Who Ever calls out wilder?

Also when its a beloved fighter on here..."they ducking him doe"

Everyone even Ortiz, Joshua, Parker all have similar level resumes yet no major criticism on opponents....only the old guys have good resumes @ the weight

That stiverne fight was not dull IMO,

Many posters don't like fighters under Haymon...never figured that one out

It's very simple. Guys like Ortiz and Parker dont have the money or clout to make the big fights happen. We know Ortiz has been avoided like the plague. Joshua has very few fights and is already fighting better competition than Wilder

Wilder is a black murican backed up by mass media and Haymon's money,

He can make the big fights happen, he simply doesn't want to do it, Wilder has something people like Ortiz and Parker dont, the money and media hype to back him up and get him better opponents than bums and school teachers

but Windmiller wants the path of least resistance forever.

[yammy25]

Hayes HW resume is garbage. Seriously garbage.
Povetkin has a better resume as does Tyson Fury.

Haye fought Valuev.. ruiz..klitschko..chisora. fury fought two of these...the other two are better than anyone else on his resume. Povetkin has a better resume??! Looooool YDKSAB.

[dan_cov]

Haye fought Valuev.. ruiz..klitschko..chisora. fury fought two of these...the other two are better than anyone else on his resume. Povetkin has a better resume??! Looooool YDKSAB.

Valuev was 40 lost way more convincingly to Chagaev and was tooled by a 50yr old Holyfield. Valuev retired immediately after. Haye barely did a thing that night and if it wasn't for the uproar of Valuev getting a hometown decision vs an extremely faded Holyfield whom he made look prime he'd of most likely not got the nod.
Ruiz was also almost 40, hadn't beaten anyone of note in a decade. Shot to bits.
We counting losses now as part of resumes?
Chisora had lost several back-to-back going in, lost to every semi decent fighter he's fought to this day. A journeyman.

Povetkin beat a prime Chagaev who beat Valuev (An undefeated, younger, better Valuev) and who Haye swerved like the plague. A better win than anything Haye has.
He also destroyed top contender Mike Perez, a very underrated but aged Cedric Boswell who is far better than Chisora. Marco Huck - #1 CW at the time, Carlos Takam - Prime, top 5 at the time.
Povetkins resume is way ahead of Hayes.

[therealpugilist]

Because he's been the Undefeated WBC champion and hasnt fought proper challengers for over 2 years ,if you know boxing (IF ) you would know Washington shouldn't count either even though its his most dangerous guy hes facing yet .

You can play the top guys game of who fought who ,but no one like Wilder who holds a belt has nearly 40 fights with basically nothing to brag about. Its not just Wilder its the joke of a rankings system that lines these guys up for him , Dillian Whyte is practically his biggest nearest threat to Ortiz . Whyte can fight (another guy i said would advance for 2 years now ) and if he takes that fight IF he defeats Washington he will then have a decent resume .And he has to defeat a Whyte or same level guy ,he has nothing to show for his championship reign thus far.

His resume is not impressive to say the last....dammit we would be having this convo if povetkin was clean

He coming off two surgeries so a tune up should've been expected.... They could've did better than arreola but between him.and the other guys, their resumes are equally average

No one really has a good ledger outside the old guys.


This year is gonna be huge for the heavyweights....questions will be answered and I'm sure he'll fight the winner of parker-fury or wlad-joshua. ...Ortiz, who is he lined up to face?

[deathofaclown]

The problem is that he's fought 1 half decent fighter in almost 40 fights. That's basically the top and bottom of it. I think people would be more forgiving if Stiverne was the only decent fighter he had fought in about 20 fights or something.

I think some do slate him too much, lets remember he was a week away from fighting Povetkin before he got caught. If he doesn't fight another top HW in 2017 though, then i'd say the slating is justified.

[yammy25]

Valuev was 40 lost way more convincingly to Chagaev and was tooled by a 50yr old Holyfield. Valuev retired immediately after. Haye barely did a thing that night and if it wasn't for the uproar of Valuev getting a hometown decision vs an extremely faded Holyfield whom he made look prime he'd of most likely not got the nod.
Ruiz was also almost 40, hadn't beaten anyone of note in a decade. Shot to bits.
We counting losses now as part of resumes?
Chisora had lost several back-to-back going in, lost to every semi decent fighter he's fought to this day. A journeyman.

Povetkin beat a prime Chagaev who beat Valuev (An undefeated, younger, better Valuev) and who Haye swerved like the plague. A better win than anything Haye has.
He also destroyed top contender Mike Perez, a very underrated but aged Cedric Boswell who is far better than Chisora. Marco Huck - #1 CW at the time, Carlos Takam - Prime, top 5 at the time.
Povetkins resume is way ahead of Hayes.

I think you need to look up the definition of the word resume.. its a summary.

A summary is a cv.. a list of all history wins and losses.

Prime chagaev? He never had a prime lol. How did haye swerve like the plague when haye fought valuev for the WBA after valuev had regained it after his MD loss to chagaev... ( a much less conving MD than hayes win and you know it ). When chagaev fought valuev haye was still a ****ing CW you mong.

Oh but we're counting wins over Cruiser weights? I'll be sure to remember to come back to this once Haye beats the WBC cruiserweight champion.. who beat a guy for the belt ranked higher than huck? Gtfo with your triangle victory theory bull.

Btw carlos takam has never been a top 5 heavyweight in his ****ing life the sorry good for nothing bum merchant.

Haye beats the drug cheat.. the same drug cheat who was more than likely on the peds for every ****ing win he had so the fact you even give povetkin any credit shows where your loyalties lie.

Be cool if they fought so he could lose to a cruiserweight.. a much better one than Marco ****ing huck who did his absolute best to have nothing to do with haye at CW