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  • On This Day: Greb vs Walker & the most famous street fight in history

    90 years ago Greb beat his great rival in the ring and, legend has it, on the sidewalk.




    THE 1925 Fight of the Year was the definition of pound-for-pound super fight, featuring two greats in a bout that lived up to all expectations. Welterweight champion Mickey Walker was the brutal ‘Toy Bulldog’ who earlier that year had got the better of light-heavyweight king Mike McTigue over 12 rounds. The defending world middleweight champion Harry Greb was an incomprehensible fighting force able to withstand any blow and move and strike with the rapidity of a man much smaller that terrorised every fighter worth his salt up to heavyweight.

    In a borderline street fight before more than 50,000 spectators that makes the widespread folklore of an plainclothes tussle taking place post-fight insignificant, the men slugged it out for much of the bout, with The New York Herald Tribune calling the second session ‘one of the greatest of all time’. Just when Greb pulled away Walker was there, defiant.

    As the bout went on, Greb’s angles and added strength did take their toll on Walker, culminating in a 14th-round
    drubbing that had the welterweight king out on his feet.

    Walker’s ability to spin a yarn is almost as lauded as his fighting prowess, but no one could describe the savage display of superiority Greb dished out in the penultimate round better.

    “I was knocked ragtime, not off my feet, but I was silly,” he said. “You know, like a man walking in a dream.”

    Live time report :
    “THE two men stood toe-to-toe in round after round, hitting out for all they were worth. One is somewhat surprised to read that Walker should have elected to do his bit on these lines, as with wallop for wallop as the order of the day, the heavier metal was bound to prove the more effective. Greb is a curious, yet brainy fighter, who when hard pressed by a fleet-footed opponent, is apt to mill on the retreat, and is able to produce a terrific punch, even when jumping off the ground. Mickey may have been so impressed by the middleweight champion’s ability in this respect that he decided it would prove a better paying policy to make a sizzling battle of it. It was a policy that more than once came within an ace of success, though it came as nearly within approach to disaster. Each man is said to have been badly shaken in turn but, carried on, with Walker getting somewhat dazed in the fourteenth round, but managing to hold on until his brain cleared, and then putting up as hot a fight in the final stanza as in any of the previous ones.”

    The New York street fight

    HOURS after their thrilling battle at the Polo Grounds on July 2, 1925, legend has it that Walker and Greb encountered each other at a lobster shop on Broadway. The pair then reportedly drank and danced into the early hours of the morning, before relations turned sour.

    Mickey commented in The Spartanburg Herald: “After stumbling out into the morning air, all of a sudden Harry grabbed me by the back of the neck and said, ‘Just to show you I can lick you anytime, anywhere, I’m going to give you a walloping right now.’ He made a rush for me, so I stepped back and let him have a left hook on the chin. In a second, we were all over the street.”

    Allegedly, a police officer witnessed the incident and bundled the pair off the block. According to Walker’s account, Greb rang him shortly after the scuffle and stated, “Mickey, I’m sorry for what I just did, but don’t forget – I can always lick you.”

  • #2
    Also on this day :

    On this day in 1921 was boxing's first million dollar gate
    On July 2 1921 Jack Demsey fought Georges Carpentier, bringing in over a million dollars




    the first million-dollar gate attracted headlines around the world. That was on July 2 1921, when Jack Dempsey fought Georges Carpentier in Jersey City, just across the Hudson from Manhattan.

    Tex Rickard had an arena specially built on a piece of ground near Montgomery Street known as Boyle's Thirty Acres. It took 60 carpenters and 40 labourers more than a year to construct and once Rickard realised the extent of the demand for tickets, he had them increase the capacity from 50,000 to more than 80,000.

    The project cost Rickard $325,000 but his reward for that extravagant investment was an official attendance of 80,183, some said it was closer to 90,000 and gate receipts of an astonishing $1,789,238. He paid Dempsey $300,000. Carpentier, cast as the French war hero, was in marketing terms more than a mere challenger for the title, and was therefore paid $200,000. That left Rickard with a rough profit a close to a million dollars before tax.

    Someone described the scene as 'like a big bowl of honey covered in flies'. The fight was delayed by Rickard when bi-planes flew overhead. He did not want anyone taking unlicensed aerial photos - and not long before a pilot had crashed his plane within 200 yards of Forest Hills centre court during the US tennis championships.

    The fight began about 15 minutes late, and lasted a little less than that. As Dempsey knocked out Carpentier in the fourth round, people in the $5 and $10 seats said the wooden structure swayed dramatically and creaked but did not fall.

    Rickard had worried that Dempsey might kill Carpentier, whom he described as a nice guy who couldn't fight, and so kill boxing. As it was, boxing was very much alive, and as the fight earned $400,000 for the taxman, very much approved of. The Golden Era of the 1920s had begun.
    Last edited by Chrismart; 07-03-2015, 07:06 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Chrismart View Post
      Allegedly, a police officer witnessed the incident and bundled the pair off the block. According to Walker’s account, Greb rang him shortly after the scuffle and stated, “Mickey, I’m sorry for what I just did, but don’t forget – I can always lick you.”
      Lol! What a fkin G. That's funny. Great stuff.

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      • #4
        it really would have been nice if film of greb had survived.


        i'd love to see a cellphone video of these two going at it, as well. i'd shout worldstar, and get some shaky documentation on my iphone 5

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        • #5
          Great, refreshing read. Green K.

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          • #6
            Boxing in the 20s was OG as fk. Jack Dempsey was so badass the newspapermen coined the phrase "killer instinct" JUST TO DESCRIBE HIS STYLE THE BETTER

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            • #7
              Originally posted by New England View Post
              it really would have been nice if film of greb had survived.


              i'd love to see a cellphone video of these two going at it, as well. i'd shout worldstar, and get some shaky documentation on my iphone 5
              It's been going around Twitter as of last week that his second to last fight was discovered in a private collection. The fight he lost his MW title to Tiger Flowers.

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