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  • #21
    Originally posted by MindBat View Post
    Floyd pioneered random blood and urine testing in boxing.

    And only one guy who's name starts with a P and ends in 'man' has been dodging it since it was first announced.
    No he didn't.

    All Saureland take part in random blood testing, and they did this well before Floyd.

    Other fighters that have turned down blood testing at the request of their opponents, Andre Ward, Hopkins, Wlad, Marquez, and Holyfield, but Evan was doped to the eyeballs.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
      i think joe gans is often credited with "creating" the jab. not that he was the first fighter to throw a straight punch with the lead hand but rather understanding the value of using it to control range, pace, to set up other punches and keep your opponent at bay. gans was also a prominent feinter, wouldnt say he invented the feint since that like the jab is impossible to track. but he did take it to another level.

      corbett was one of the pioneers of technical boxing in a time when most ppl fought like rock em sock em robots, especially in the HW division. jack johnson brought it to another level, they both relied on the jab and movement unlike the other HWs of that time. only corbett was praised for it though, johnson being black was accused of fighting cowardly while corbett was given credit for fighting smart.

      kid gavilan made the bolo punch popular. archie moore had a very special style that few fighters have used since, i cant think of anyone before him boxing in the same manner although i could very well be wrong.

      ali didnt invent his style, but he was the first to use it in the HW division and has been mimicked countless times since so i think he deserves some props.

      as does james toney, floyd mayweather and bernard hopkins. they far from invented their respective styles but they did bring back some lost arts of boxing and floyd of course is the most mimicked fighter today, so in a sense they brought the old school back.

      Ali tried to copy SRR style

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      • #23
        jack johnson was the first guy to use his tremendous size for defense.

        he'd catch shots, fend guys off with an open glove and an outstretched arm, he rolled his shoulders, and he'd pot shot when guys got close. he was so strong that he could easily tie people up.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Rudiamonds View Post
          Tyson search and destroyes style
          Tyson's style was patterned after Jack Dempsey: even the poncho from a towel, no socks, black shoes, even "Iron Mike".

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          • #25
            Pernell whitaker is one of a kind.

            Guy is so unorthodox

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            • #26
              Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post

              corbett was one of the pioneers of technical boxing in a time when most ppl fought like rock em sock em robots, especially in the HW division. jack johnson brought it to another level, they both relied on the jab and movement unlike the other HWs of that time. only corbett was praised for it though, johnson being black was accused of fighting cowardly while corbett was given credit for fighting smart.
              funny how some things never change Lenny Dykstra got the nickname "nails" for being tough as nails for putting his body on the line and playing all out where as Eric Davis and Ken Griffey Jr were called injury prone

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              • #27
                Tucan McGinty was the first fighter to primarily work behind the jab. People didn't see the point in it as it didn't carry much power. However, Tucan showed that it could be used to open up opponents so the big punch could land.
                Last edited by Barn; 10-02-2013, 10:36 AM.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
                  Pernell whitaker is one of a kind.

                  Guy is so unorthodox
                  he had a very awkward style and unorthodox in more ways than one but he was so fundamentally sound and used footwork and spacing very well to keep opponents off balance

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                    No he didn't.

                    All Saureland take part in random blood testing, and they did this well before Floyd.

                    Other fighters that have turned down blood testing at the request of their opponents, Andre Ward, Hopkins, Wlad, Marquez, and Holyfield, but Evan was doped to the eyeballs.

                    Actually, negotiations between May and Pac involving Olympic style random blood and urine testing started back in 2009.

                    This was reported in 2010...

                    "Team Sauerland has agreed to extensive drug testing via the German National Anti-Doping Agency (NADA), becoming the first and only boxing stable to have far-reaching agreements in place with the NADA. All Sauerland boxers as well as their opponents are subject to random testing during practice and after the fights. “That is a milestone for boxing,” Team Sauerland General Manager Chris Meyer said. “We have agreed to thorough testing. We have a zero-tolerance policy towards doping.”

                    https://www.google.com/search?q=Germ...+for+his+shows!

                    Floyd was ahead of the game back then.

                    Last edited by MindBat; 10-02-2013, 10:47 AM.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
                      Ali tried to copy SRR style
                      was he a HW? last time i checked he wasnt so whats your point?

                      i said ali far from invented his style but he was the first HW to use it and since then countless other HWs did the same. that was the point and he was innovative to do so as well, not only had it never been done before by a big man but it gave him a great advantage for a long time as other HWs werent used to it.

                      besides, while he did take a lot from SRRs style he far from copied it. like most successful fighters his style was a blend from several different fighters, SRR was just the one he took the most from.

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