21 year old White gunman kills 9 people at African American Church in South Carolina

[BKM-2010]

He had a manifesto that quoted many scriptures and based his entire sick act on his interpretation of Christianity...lol
Google Brecik Manifesto and read it for yourself.

I'm seeing conflicting reports on that. Some say he was, some quote lines from himself where he says that he's not religious but more of a 'cultural christian' or even some sort of 'atheist-christian'.

The manifesto states its author is "100 percent Christian",[32] but he is not "excessively religious"[32] and considers himself a "cultural Christian" and a "modern-day crusader".[32][191] His manifesto states "I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, as that would be a lie", calls religion a crutch and a source for drawing mental strength, and says "I've always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment." Regarding the term cultural Christian, which he says means preserving European culture, he notes, "It is enough that you are a Christian-agnostic or a Christian-atheist (an atheist who wants to preserve at least the basics of the European Christian cultural legacy...)"[181][191] Furthermore, Breivik stated that "myself and many more like me do not necessarily have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and God."[191][192] Nevertheless, he stated that he planned to pray to God seeking for his help during his attacks.

You claim that he's quoting verses from the bible to justify his actions. Can you post this evidence?


This is pretty much deflection though. We're talking one person here. How about hundreds of thousands of examples for today's christianity like we have of Islamic followers?

...lol

I don't see 69 innocent deaths as something to laugh around.

Also, if a person is an atheist how can he kill in the name of atheism?

Are you even more stupid than I thought? An atheist can do that do that by killing theists.

[~AK49~]

The person who doesn't have comprehension is you. Let me explain this in a very calm and simple matter so you can insult and act like a child once again.

You were the one who came on here and said this had more to do with atheism, which you can't prove.

The difference between Christianity and Islam outside of the basic tenets, is that Christianity has gone through a reformation. The power was taken from Christianity in the west, and the Church is no longer the government.

When it was though, it was horrific. It made what Islamic extremist are doing now, look like child's play. Oh and it was backed 100% to scripture, as was the slave trade (since slavery is condoned by your god) and so was violence against ****sexuals like it's happening right now in Nigeria.

Islam hasn't gone through a reformation, and that's why we see the things we do. The Old Testament is as vile as the Quran, the only difference is, most of you "Christians" don't take the book seriously anymore.

You are what I call "buffet Christians" you take what you like, leave what you don't like. At least Muslims are more devout in their beliefs.

So you are what would be called 'buffet atheists'?

-Brb atheists can't commit such horrible acts

-gives examples of atheists committing horrible acts

-but but but its impossible to do it in the name of atheism...

[BKM-2010]

You were the one who came on here and said this had more to do with atheism, which you can't prove.

You must be confusing me with someone else you imbecile because that's not what I did in this thread. I came in here letting you know what a moron you are for judging today's christianity by what they did hundreds to thousands of years ago, and asked you for evidence of current examples which you have only given 1 questionable one of.

You recognize those fools are extremists but still choose to judge all by them?

Maybe if the 1 and a half billion muslims were protesting all over the world against the actions of their naughty ones, instead of not speaking out at all or on the contrary, get offended when implied that they should? Maybe then I wouldn't judge all of them.

Also you are ignoring (the dominant) geo-political issues that are not religiously rooted. As proof ask yourself why nearly all these insurgencies started only in the last decade or so?

Only in the last decade or so? 1915, 3 million Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks slaughtered like animals in the ME by Jihadis. That's only 1 example.

[BKM-2010]

So you are what would be called 'buffet atheists'?

-Brb atheists can't commit such horrible acts

-gives examples of atheists committing horrible acts

-but but but its impossible to do it in the name of atheism...

He doesn't realise his own hypocrisy and then has the audacity to call others hypocrites

Cuah is a mentally unstable, middle aged former fighter who is probably punchy in real life. He does this type of stuff every day in the Lounge.

[Canelo Phresh]

If he's Christian, this will be li eral ammo for years. If he's atheist/socialist his political and secular views won't matter at all, and we will need a deeper discussion about race lmao.

[~AK49~]

You must be confusing me with someone else you imbecile because that's not what I did in this thread. I came in here letting you know what a moron you are for judging today's christianity by what they did hundreds to thousands of years ago, and asked you for evidence of current examples which you have only given 1 questionable one of.



Maybe if the 1 and a half billion muslims were protesting all over the world against the actions of their naughty ones, instead of not speaking out at all or on the contrary, get offended when implied that they should? Maybe then I wouldn't judge all of them.




Only in the last decade or so? 1915, 3 million Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks slaughtered like animals in the ME by Jihadis. That's only 1 example.

Lol, he's confusing you with me (the guy who he's obviously reading posts of, but dares not reply to).

Come on cuah, surely you're not the type to throw a cheap shot and run away when told to square up?

Square up boy

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Are you even more stupid than I thought? An atheist can do that do that by killing theists.

You yourself admitted that a person can be atheist or Christian and not kill in the name of those ideologies correct?

For example, Hitler was a Roman Catholic, but there's no evidence that Catholicism was used as a motivator for what he did.

So I will ask again, how can atheism be a motivator for killing people since it's only a rejection of the belief in god's, nothing else. There are no atheist churches, there's no atheist holy book, there's no atheist rules or tenets in which atheist have to obey.

Please don't bring up communism argument either..

So you are what would be called 'buffet atheists'?

-Brb atheists can't commit such horrible acts

-gives examples of atheists committing horrible acts

-but but but its impossible to do it in the name of atheism...

I didn't say atheist can't commit horrible acts, think this through I know you are slow....

I said show me how atheism can motivate you to commit horrible acts. Anyone with any belief can do anything, but religion has ideology, dogma, tenets and beliefs that motivate people to act on those beliefs.

Do you not understand the difference?

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

You must be confusing me with someone else you imbecile because that's not what I did in this thread. I came in here letting you know what a moron you are for judging today's christianity by what they did hundreds to thousands of years ago, and asked you for evidence of current examples which you have only given 1 questionable one of.

It's hard to differentiate between morons, my bad.

I actually gave you 2 examples, Brevik and Nigeria.

I did however give you the example of why Christianity isn't militant like Islam is in some parts of the world. Why would you ignore that point?

[~AK49~]

You yourself admitted that a person can be atheist or Christian and not kill in the name of those ideologies correct?

For example, Hitler was a Roman Catholic, but there's no evidence that Catholicism was used as a motivator for what he did.

So I will ask again, how can atheism be a motivator for killing people since it's only a rejection of the belief in god's, nothing else. There are no atheist churches, there's no atheist holy book, there's no atheist rules or tenets in which atheist have to obey.





I didn't say atheist can't commit horrible acts, think this through I know you are slow....

I said show me how atheism can motivate you to commit horrible acts. Anyone with any belief can do anything, but religion has ideology, dogma, tenets and beliefs that motivate people to act on those beliefs.

Do you not understand the difference?

Look at you try to pidgeonhole circumstances.

Brb, an atheist killing out of disdain for religion doesn't count, only killing in the name of atheism.

Lol, buffet atheist indeed....

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Look at you try to pidgeonhole circumstances.

Brb, an atheist killing out of disdain for religion doesn't count, only killing in the name of atheism.

Lol, buffet atheist indeed....

So this guy is an atheist and killed in the name of atheism? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I haven't seen any reports of this.

Where did you see this?