Where do people get this idea Wilder-Joshua will generate over $100 mil? I'll tell u

[AddiX]

You're not really making any sense because HBO only has one successful PPV headliner right now and he was built by Showtime.

Showtime and Haymon think PPV is harmful to the long term health of the sport, which is why they ignore PPV unless it's a truly massive fight.

HBO has no budget, which is why they're obsessed with PPV.

You still can't name a ppv seller showtime has built in years.

And lmao at showtime doesn't like ppv. They ignore ppv, they could be making tons of stars and making bank off ppv, they just don't want to, right?

Clown...

All of the ppv sellers in the U.S. Since Tyson were built on HBO. Literally, all of them.

Showtime can't sell ppv without an established star.

[N/A]

You still can't name a ppv seller showtime has built in years.

I just did. Canelo. Which is more recent than HBO. GGG as an a-side has bombed on PPV. HBO's only PPV a-side is Canelo, who was built on PPV by Showtime. Your entire point has fallen apart.

And lmao at showtime doesn't like ppv. They ignore ppv, they could be making tons of stars and making bank off ppv, they just don't want to, right?

HBO makes very little from PPV. They just do it because it's a way to have boxing without paying for fights.

SHO has made a calculated business decision to try to kill off PPV in favor of becoming the #1 boxing network in the US. PPV is a dying medium. SHO is trying to stay ahead of the curve while HBO is clinging to life.

All of the ppv sellers in the U.S. Since Tyson were built on HBO. Literally, all of them.

Not Canelo.

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Good thread. Hearns lies all over the place.

[rickJen]

Why do Wilder **riders complicate things so much?
Why aren't they calling out Haymon and Espinoza?
Joshua was asking for $50 million flat fee.
What is there to debate about?
Tell Haymon to make the fight in Vegas.
End of story.
Or do you just like blaming Hearn as if he's the only promoter in the picture.

[rickJen]

Did Haymon and Espinoza even offered to make the fight in Vegas?