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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostReading the 1st paragraph, reads alot like the Loma/Walters situation doesn't it?
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostSee, I highly doubt Floyd put him on the shelf. Haymon wouldn't allow that to happen. Again, the lack of dates here are the main thing. If PBC didn't get that FOX deal, then the Charlos also would have had only one fight, and Jack another Mayweather fighter had one fight himself. And there is no reason to punish someone like Jack. Haymon is a business man and isn't going to let someone as emotional as Floyd dictate what is best for his business and his fighter.
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Originally posted by killakali View PostApples and oranges. Walters was offered the Loma fight 6 months earlier and turned it down. Pedraza was shelved. Walters could have had that fight on his regular fighting schedule
I just think you should be consistent and note that Walters was off 11 months prior to fighting Loma and had missed weight the previous fight, indicating 126 might be an issue. Similar to what you posted about Pedrazza-was inactive and was having trouble making weight-before the Tank fight.
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Originally posted by killakali View PostIf you don't think Floyd has influence over Haymon you are mistaken. There is a lack of dates but Tank isn't making 7 figures. He could have easily fought again this year. Luis Ortiz is a PBC fighter and got 3 dates this year. Floyd shelved him and even tried to sacrifice him to Loma to teach him a lesson.
So why did Jack only get one date? Why were the Charlo's at one date until the FOX deal?
Ortiz got that little tune up fight against that bum in July and then was put on the December PPV card just in case Fury pulled out and then he would have been able to step in. Not only that, but Joyce was on that card as well and that sets up that match up for 2019.
SHO had 12 dates, 13 if you include the PPV in 2018. That's it. Guys like Davis aren't fighting on FS1 or those lower FOX dates that were running until the new deal. Hard for everyone to stay active with so few dates. Just run down the names and see how many fights they got in 2018.
So if Tank is more active in 2019 will that be because Floyd told Haymon to get him more active? Will Floyd all of a sudden forgive him for supposedly sleeping with his daughter? The reality is there will be more dates for PBC fighters to be more active and that will be the main reason for them fighting more than once a year.
Haymon isn't letting someone who is 40 years old yet acts like a little kid mess with his business.
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostNah, no need for me to make a thread.
But like I said, why does one necessarily need five good wins to beat Lomachenko?
It is absolutely valid to mention that Lomachenko has beaten much better fighters than Davis has and has much more experience when you take into consideration his storied amateur career. But to make a thread asking for his five best wins when you know there really aren't five best wins doesn't make much sense.
To answer your question though why some think Davis has a chance or may win? Likely because of his power and athleticism. I personally think his IQ is underrated and that will allow him to compete with Lomachenko, but doesn't necessarily mean I think he will win. In fact, I got Lomachenko winning a close but clear decision.
It didnt.
Funny how now power and athleticism is good enough for people to say a fighter without any top tier wins, beats one of the 10 best fighters today, because of “power and athleticism”. Lets be real. People were waiting for Loma to not have a ko or stoppage so they can say they see flaws and thats why Tank beats him.
If only the guy had that same confidence.
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Name Tarver 5 best wins before he beat Roy Jones Jr
Kiryl Relikh 5 best wins before he beat Rances Barthelmy
Tyson Fury 5 best wins before he beat Wlad
Orlando Salido 5 best wins before he beat Lomachenko
Danny Garcia 5 best wins before he beat Amir Khan
Jeff Horn 5 best wins before he beat Manny Pacquiao
Buster Douglas 5 best wins before he beat Tyson
This is a ******ed thread. I don’t know why you all are so mad that Tank looked way better against Pedraza.
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Originally posted by KTFOKING View PostThen I am mistaken, because there is no way in hell do I think Haymon will mess with his business because of Floyd. If we see how idiotic Floyd is, you don't think Haymon knows that?
So why did Jack only get one date? Why were the Charlo's at one date until the FOX deal?
Ortiz got that little tune up fight against that bum in July and then was put on the December PPV card just in case Fury pulled out and then he would have been able to step in. Not only that, but Joyce was on that card as well and that sets up that match up for 2019.
SHO had 12 dates, 13 if you include the PPV in 2018. That's it. Guys like Davis aren't fighting on FS1 or those lower FOX dates that were running until the new deal. Hard for everyone to stay active with so few dates. Just run down the names and see how many fights they got in 2018.
So if Tank is more active in 2019 will that be because Floyd told Haymon to get him more active? Will Floyd all of a sudden forgive him for supposedly sleeping with his daughter? The reality is there will be more dates for PBC fighters to be more active and that will be the main reason for them fighting more than once a year.
Haymon isn't letting someone who is 40 years old yet acts like a little kid mess with his business.
I do agree with you when you say the reason so many PBC fighters were inactive is because they didn’t have enough dates. They were waiting until the Fox deal finalized.
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