Was Juan Manuel Marquez on PEDs vs Pacquiao in the 4th fight?

[Wolfie*]

What is the general consensus on this? I believed he was on PEDs for various amounts of reasons. He hired Memo a well known chemist to mask whatever drugs he was taking. He knew what Memo was about and still hired him. He shown signs of steroid use of Acne on his back where before he didn't have any.

Also if you look at the fight itself, Marquez all of sudden had crazy power to hurt Pacquiao. During the previous 3 fights, he only hurt Pacquiao once but never dropped him. Marquez had motivation to cheat, being that he never got the decision prior to the 4th fight and he generally felt he was cheated on the cards.

With that being said, do you believe Marquez was on PEDs vs Pacquiao in the 4th fight?

[LADIV]

What is the general consensus on this? I believed he was on PEDs for various amounts of reasons. He hired Memo a well known chemist to mask whatever drugs he was taking. He knew what Memo was about and still hired him. He shown signs of steroid use of Acne on his back where before he didn't have any.

Also if you look at the fight itself, Marquez all of sudden had crazy power to hurt Pacquiao. During the previous 3 fights, he only hurt Pacquiao once but never dropped him. Marquez had motivation to cheat, being that he never got the decision prior to the 4th fight and he generally felt he was cheated on the cards.

With that being said, do you believe Marquez was on PEDs vs Pacquiao in the 4th fight?

you reaching dawg...the same can be said of Pacquiao during his Ariza days..Ariza leaves and the knock outs become obsolete..besides Marquez passed all his test before and after the fight..

[hugh grant]

What is the general consensus on this? I believed he was on PEDs for various amounts of reasons. He hired Memo a well known chemist to mask whatever drugs he was taking. He knew what Memo was about and still hired him. He shown signs of steroid use of Acne on his back where before he didn't have any.

Also if you look at the fight itself, Marquez all of sudden had crazy power to hurt Pacquiao. During the previous 3 fights, he only hurt Pacquiao once but never droptped him. Marquez had motivation to cheat, being that he never got the decision prior to the 4th fight and he generally felt he was cheated on the cards.

With that being said, do you believe Marquez was on PEDs vs Pacquiao in the 4th fight?

It's more of a n issue that jmm chin could take everything PAC threw at him in 4th fight. In first fight everyone PAC landed jmm seemed to go down. Even the air of PACs missed punches whizzing past jmm jaw made me nervous for jmm in first fight

[Panopticon]

Pacquiao's team had 2 fights to test him. There was suspicion before the 3rd fight and Marquez' team said lets test everything including shit samples. Pac's team never said a fuckin thing again after that. They weren't considering USADA/VADA until after he got knocked the fuck out.

The difference between Memo and Ariza is that Memo has REAL credentials as a conditioning coach. He worked the olympics for a reason. Is he likely to be a clandestine PED chemist hired by big stars to work their fights and help them game the system?Oh fuck yeah he is. Pactards can't bitch because their boy balked at drug testing beyond NSAC's protocol in 2011 and 2012.

[AddiX]

They were both juiced the fck up.

Everyone remembers the knockout.

No one talks about how insanely hard they were going at each other, those dudes were swinging away, that fight was insane.

More peds in boxing please

[HeadShots]

Juice was running out of Juan's popped pimples. Dude had acne like a 12 yr old boy going through another phase of puberty.


He never had any KO's in his entire life. He 1 punches some dude before fighting Pac. Then 1 punches Pac. guy who he's never downed. lmao ya ok

[UNBIASED BOXING]

Yes, Marquez was definitely on PEDs. Pacquiao probably as well. Hell, even Floyd probably was.

But what else is new? Wladimir Klitschko was definitely on PEDs. AJ is pretty much another probable user. Canelo got caught for Clen (whether he is 100% guilty or not, oh well). The list goes on...

You don't gain 10+ pounds of muscle in less than 3 months when you are an old man on the decline, especially when you've been a professional athlete your whole life. Newbie gains exist, but none of these were even at that point anymore.

[Phenom]

He was also stepping on Pacquiao toes which is a clear sign of PED

[Phenom]

Never gets old ..

[Redd Foxx]

Of course he was. You don't magically get in the best shape of your life at 40 y/o, then go back to looking old in your next fight.