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Which country’s army raped the most after winning the war?
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Originally posted by i_am_a_champ View PostThat sounds disturbing
It was tough to read, honestly.
(Hartmann was married, and his wife was back in Germany. After that event, he wrote her and told her that if she was overran by the Soviets to either kill herself or to throw herself on the highest ranking Russian she could find, as in his mind it was better to be raped by one of them than to be raped by countless savages.
That's how horrible it was. Luckily for her, her area was overran by the Western Allies.)
The OP asked for graphic examples, so I gave the worst I'd ever read about.Last edited by 1bad65; 09-20-2019, 03:30 PM.billeau2 likes this.
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Originally posted by Boxfan83 View PostU watch Mayans M.C.? I am not to familiar with Biker gangs so I like the show.
Soa was already too fake for me
Sure mayans is worse
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Originally posted by i_am_a_champ View Post
Khan was a boss
There was a scene where kublai Khan wife was picking out which sluts were pretty enough to be in kublais harem
I need to go back in time and be an emperor and king from back then
imagine Laura Bush picking out which Iraqi and Afghani sluts W gets to bang
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Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostThe Soviets on the Eastern Front.
It's not even close. Even their leaders were openly encouraging the troops to freely engage in such barbarism.
If you want a graphic, first person account, read The Blond Knight of Germany by Trevor J. Constable and Raymond F. Toliver.
The book is a biography of Erich Hartmann, the world's leading fighter ace.
Hartmann fought in the East and was in a civilian area overran by the Russians.
That chapter is very graphic.
Put it this way, it was so bad he saw firsthand men killing their own wives and young daughters to spare them the horrors.
The Japanese in WWII were animals too in this regard, but as bad as they were, in terms of scale the Soviets were worse.
Another book that covers the topic in almost painful detail is Anthony Beevors Berlin: The Downfall
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https://medium.com/lessons-from-hist...n-470918f997d3
https://www.theguardian.com/books/20...ews.features11
Course on the flip side the Soviet Union had been subject to the most horrific and murderous invasion in history with atrocities and barabarism - including that against civilians from both sides on a scale unimaginable... and estimated 30 million bodycount both civilian and military... that's approaching 24 000, people dead each and every day for 4 fkn years on average -from the start of operation Barbarossa on June 22 1942 to the captulation of the Reich on May 9th 1945. And the Red Army had fought it's way back to Germany across a thousand mile wasteland of burnt out and ruined towns and villages and a mountain of Soviet dead. Does it justify it... course not, but whilst all sides commited rape in the war, perhaps it helps us understand the grotesque scale on which the Soviets commited it. For each of the estimated 2 -3 million German, Austrian, Hungarian, Czech and other women raped maybe 5 times that number of Soviet women died in the war.
Anthony Beevors words are probably worth mulling...
"Having always in the past slightly pooh-poohed the idea that most men are potential rapists, I had to come to the conclusion that if there is a lack of army discipline, most men with a weapon, dehumanised by living through two or three years of war, do become potential rapists,"
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Originally posted by 1bad65 View PostThe Soviets on the Eastern Front.
It's not even close. Even their leaders were openly encouraging the troops to freely engage in such barbarism.
If you want a graphic, first person account, read The Blond Knight of Germany by Trevor J. Constable and Raymond F. Toliver.
The book is a biography of Erich Hartmann, the world's leading fighter ace.
Hartmann fought in the East and was in a civilian area overran by the Russians.
That chapter is very graphic.
Put it this way, it was so bad he saw firsthand men killing their own wives and young daughters to spare them the horrors.
The Japanese in WWII were animals too in this regard, but as bad as they were, in terms of scale the Soviets were worse.1bad65 likes this.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
I watched Marco polo
There was a scene where kublai Khan wife was picking out which sluts were pretty enough to be in kublais harem
I need to go back in time and be an emperor and king from back then
imagine Laura Bush picking out which Iraqi and Afghani sluts W gets to bang
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Estimates of the number of women and girls raped range from 12,000 to 50,000, the vast majority of whom were Bosniaks raped by Bosnian Serbs.[30]UNHCR experts have claimed 12,000 rapes.[31][32] The European Union estimates a total of 20,000, while the Bosnian Interior Ministry claims 50,000.[33] The UN Commission of Experts identified 1,600 cases of sexual violence.[31]
Serb forces set up "rape camps", where women were subjected to being repeatedly raped, and only released when pregnant.[34] Gang rape and public rapes in front of villagers and neighbors were not uncommon.[35] On 6 October 1992, the United Nations Security Council established a Commission of Experts chaired by M. Cherif Bassiouni. According to the commission's findings, it was apparent that rape was being used by Serb forces systematically, and had the support of commanders and local authorities.[a] The commission also reported that some perpetrators said they were ordered to rape. Others said that the use of rape was a tactic to make sure the targeted population would not return to the area. The assailants told their victims they would bear a child of the assailant's ethnicity.[37] Pregnant women were detained until it was too late to have the fetus aborted. Victims were told they would be hunted down and killed should they report what had transpired.[38] The commission also concluded that: "Rape has been reported to have been committed by all sides to the conflict. However, the largest number of reported victims have been Bosniaks, and the largest number of alleged perpetrators have been Bosnian Serbs. There are few reports of rape and sexual assault between members of the same ethnic group."[39]
The team of European Community investigators, including Simone Veil and Anne Warburton, similarly concluded in their 1993 report that rape carried out by the Bosnian Serb forces was not a secondary effect of the conflict but part of a systematic policy of ethnic cleansing and was "perpetrated with the conscious intention of demoralizing and terrorizing communities, driving them from their home regions and demonstrating the power of the invading forces".[40]Amnesty International and Helsinki Watch also concluded during the conflict that rape was being used as a weapon of war, with the primary purpose being to cause humiliation, degradation, and intimidation to ensure the survivors would leave and never return.[41][42]
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