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Old 10-17-2019, 02:30 AM #161
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1 fight (subpar) in how long ???
So you admit that he was active by acknowledging his fight prior to Manny in which Thurman won against Josesito.
Glad to know you finally acknowledge some truth and stop with your excuses, lies, false narratives, etc.
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Old 10-17-2019, 02:41 AM #162
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So you admit that he was active!
If you call 1 fight in 2 years active, then sure.

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Old 10-17-2019, 06:49 AM #163
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Floyd vs Canelo.


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Pacquiao beating Thurman is a great accomplishment, in the way he beat him too.
But Floyd at 38, off the street, inactive and returned to the ring: completely out boxed The. Best. Active. Boxer. In. The. World.

Nothing more needs to be said.
Floyds win over Nelo was a cw. What part of that do you not understand? Because its a CW it cant be a great win. Why wont Floyd fans acknowledge that fact? Simple. Because floyds resume is so lacking that they have to grasp onto whatever they can. If not that win, its the destruction of Gatti, beating the bloated JMM better than Pac or Pac himself. That's it.
Floyd fans always criticise Pacs CW win over margarito and cotto. So how can a Floyd CW win be held so highly? How is it possible? So Pac should have more CW fights now should he? Should his next fight be one?

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The thing is that Canelo obviously did get better but you can't deny that as his resume grows, the way Floyd took him apart almost effortlessly seems be more surprising after each Canelo win. Even if he got probably 3 gifts and is most likely a ped cheat.
Floyds win was a CW against weakest version of Nelo. The guy who first beat Hagler win wont grow so why does Floyds? The only way Floyd can get a great win over Nelo is if he beats him now. Its a hard thing to ask of Floyd but nobody ever said being the best ever was easy, otherwise everybody would be it. Pac beating Thurman at 41 isn't easy. But that's what you gotta do. Theres no way floyds win over nelo is better.

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This is an easy one, Floyd would beat that Thurman as easy as he beat Berto and Guerrero, an injured Thurman is same class of win and so easy for Floyd to just school, that 152 Canelo would stop Manny.

Ive said it a 100 times Floyd goes through Mannys resume like butter, Manny does not go through Floyds resume without loses ! Its undeniable, same conditions, same weights, same rules ring sizes and gloves, its not even close,,,,,, and then Floyd beat him in the ring easy !
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This is an easy one, Floyd would beat that Thurman as easy as he beat Berto and Guerrero, an injured Thurman is same class of win and so easy for Floyd to just school, that 152 Canelo would stop Manny.

Ive said it a 100 times Floyd goes through Mannys resume like butter, Manny does not go through Floyds resume without loses ! Its undeniable, same conditions, same weights, same rules ring sizes and gloves, its not even close,,,,,, and then Floyd beat him in the ring easy !
What part of CW do you not understand? A CW isn't a great win. Especially when CW victim is green.A CW means your trying to get advantage and disable your opponent. So how is it a great win? How? Did pac try disable Thurman? No. FLoyds not taking a risk so how is it a great win? Answer me. Fighting in peoples backyards risky also. Did Floyd ever do that.?
Floyd wouldn't beat Thurman at 38 let alone 41. FLoyd woulda beat everyone, but beat no one. Woulda beat GGG at 160 but wouldn't.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda is Floyd. You get nothing in this life for woulda or coulda.

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Old 10-17-2019, 10:30 AM #166
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Pac beating Thurman no debate.

Pac was 40 years old, took Thurman's best shots, fired back and dropped him.

Floyd picked a very green Canelo because he knew he could beat him at that stage in his career.
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This is an easy one, Floyd would beat that Thurman as easy as he beat Berto and Guerrero, an injured Thurman is same class of win and so easy for Floyd to just school, that 152 Canelo would stop Manny.

Ive said it a 100 times Floyd goes through Mannys resume like butter, Manny does not go through Floyds resume without loses ! Its undeniable, same conditions, same weights, same rules ring sizes and gloves, its not even close,,,,,, and then Floyd beat him in the ring easy !
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What part of CW do you not understand? A CW isn't a great win. Especially when CW victim is green.A CW means your trying to get advantage and disable your opponent. So how is it a great win? How? Did pac try disable Thurman? No. FLoyds not taking a risk so how is it a great win? Answer me. Fighting in peoples backyards risky also. Did Floyd ever do that.?
Floyd wouldn't beat Thurman at 38 let alone 41. FLoyd woulda beat everyone, but beat no one. Woulda beat GGG at 160 but wouldn't.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda is Floyd. You get nothing in this life for woulda or coulda.
Do you mean Mannys CWs are bad wins ?
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Prime Nelo would beat Manny yes, because heís 40 lbs. heavier.

But the Canelo that fought Floyd?
GTFOH with your trash.
2013 Manny UDís or TKOís that Canelo easy work.
In 2013 Manny's only fight was a UD win over Rios. This was coming off a KO to JMM in December 2012. In 2013, Canelo fought Trout and Floyd at 154 and 152. You can argue the scoring of the Trout fight (the open scoring in Texas) was poor and that when they announced Canelo ahead in round 8 he was actually behind.

I don't know if Manny beats Canelo in 2013.

Now take Floyd from 2013. Put him in with the Thurman Manny fought. I think Floyd has a much better chance of beating that Thurman than Manny has of beating that Canelo. That said, I do believe Thurman would've beaten current 42 yr old Floyd.
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Both were very good wins that will go down in the books as some of the most memorable fights due to different reasons and both do have small asteriks attached but in the grand scheme of things they aren't that serious.

Floyd essentially pitched a shutout against someone that would one day be a pfp fighter in his own right. Facts are that Canelo was inexperienced at that level and has grown to become a way better fighter but to still be shutout that way is impressive.

Manny on the other hand has seen far better days and took the title from Thurman. Facts are that Thurman was inactive for some years and had his tune up fight where he had a major scare but for Manny to drop and hurt Thurman at his age given the career he had is impressive. I hold it up there similar to Duran-Barkely in terms of accomplishment.

It will vary from person to person but I consider the Pacquiao-Thurman fight more memorable and a more impressive win. That said I do rank Floyd slightly higher overall than Manny but not by much.
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