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Old 10-15-2019, 03:14 PM #41
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More than that, it's a very important test for each guy. They're both 'eye test' and need a named win.
yeah, for sure.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:19 PM #42
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To me, Dervy has passed the eye test with his two competitive fights with Jacobs and GGG. He's not the top dog, but he's proven. Charlo needs that prove it fight though, but I feel like he'll only want to do it verses on of the other champions.
'eye test' only gets you so far. He has to BEAT a named fighter - ideally, two or more - clearly and without controversy. He hasn't done that yet. He's gone razor close with two top guys - I give him credit, he's a very tricky fighter and skilled - but he has to pull it out and get WINS now. It's not like who he lost to were undefeated champions like with Porter.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:24 PM #43
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That's a good fight, Derev and Charlo, make it happen.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:24 PM #44
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How does this guy get another title shot with less than 15 professional fights,
tripo g got sicc whater,but also not having abel had effect,
should go back of the line already
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Back of the line? Really?!? He just went life and death with the #2 guy in the division. Lots of people thought he won. That and his only other loss (another close one) is to the supposed #3 MW out there. This guy has proven himself to be among the MW elite. He's got an exciting, fan-friendly style that would mix well with just about anyone. I think Canelo is a bit too ring savvy for him, but that would be another barn-burner for sure.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:29 PM #45
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'eye test' only gets you so far. He has to BEAT a named fighter - ideally, two or more - clearly and without controversy. He hasn't done that yet. He's gone razor close with two top guys - I give him credit, he's a very tricky fighter and skilled - but he has to pull it out and get WINS now. It's not like who he lost to were undefeated champions like with Porter.
So who does he have to beat in order to be recognized as a top 5/6 guy? If you narrowly loss to and arguably beat GGG and loss narrowly to Jacobs, doesn't that make you the goods and not a poser/hype-job?
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:36 PM #46
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He's not getting the Canelo fight, he screwed himself in that one. Charlo will continue to fight nobodies. Why not Andrade?
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:36 PM #47
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'eye test' only gets you so far. He has to BEAT a named fighter - ideally, two or more - clearly and without controversy. He hasn't done that yet. He's gone razor close with two top guys - I give him credit, he's a very tricky fighter and skilled - but he has to pull it out and get WINS now. It's not like who he lost to were undefeated champions like with Porter.
He lost razor close to two Top 3 ranked fighters. It seems nearly impossible to get a controversy-free scorecard at the elite level. It just doesn't happen. GGG should have gotten the nod against Canelo in that first fight. Canelo cleanly beat GGG in the rematch and still people are calling it a robbery. Forget the official scorecards. They don't tell us what is plain to our own eyes.

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Old 10-15-2019, 03:41 PM #48
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Derev would finally test Charlo but Charlo is on the wrong side of the street and PBC duck system will never let him cross the street. Al Gaymon is ruining Charlo career.
Korobov already took him to school. Sergey would beat the **** out of charlo.
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:52 PM #49
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He lost razor close to two Top 3 ranked fighters. It seems nearly impossible to get a controversy-free scorecard at the elite level. It just doesn't happen. GGG should have gotten the nod against Canelo in that first fight. Canelo cleanly beat GGG in the rematch and still people are calling it a robbery. Forget the official scorecards. They don't tell us what is plain to our own eyes.
because he only has 15 fights he lost,
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:53 PM #50
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If Charlo wins, then Dervy has to be next! They both need it! That always makes for a great fight! How do you think Hurd will do @ 160?
I donít think he will do at all. He is just too easy to hit and that doesnít bode well for a long career at the top and especially not at a heavier weight but it will be fun to see
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