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Old 09-11-2019, 08:32 PM #21
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Did you miss the part where I said it wasn't just about ticket sales? Spence, Crawford, and Davis are only big draws in their hometown. That's no different than Jose Ramirez and Gabe Flores. Wilder only drew 4,000 when he fought in Vegas and his gate was worse than Fury-Schwarz. A lot of fights in NYC and Brooklyn have a lot of comps and the commission doesn't publicly release the official attendace and gate so it's easy to hide what a dismal failure some of these events have been. Promoters understand the demographics of their social media followers and television viewers and that's why they pander to certain groups more than others.
I didn't miss that part, I just glossed over it because you were simply incorrect like you always are. Spence, Crawford, Davis, Wilder, Thurman, Lomachenko and Pacquiao draw in large crowds in multiple cities. And Jose Ramirez has been exposed by the CSAC for giving away over 5k tickets to all of his hometown events, he just can't sell tickets. Sorry man but the mexican fan base is simply a media made myth. Non-mexican fighters continue to sell better than Mexicans in the US.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:38 PM #22
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You too desperate to hate on Mexicans, thats why we on your mind all day And that just facts.

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You get mad at me cause I called out spence, mayweather, broner etc ,, did you get at them with the same energy on twitter? lmfao I cant be responsible for what your kinfolk do, yall need to break out of that victim mentality and take up responsibility for yall actions. Dont blame me cause your kinfolk let you down, BLAME THEM. Man it up lil boy, you'll be alright.
Damn you're just obsessed with black dudes aren't you? It's not my fault Spence, Broner and Mayweather mocked you nationalistic mexicans. Every time you read threads about how mexican boxers can't sell and have small crowds at their events, you go absolutely crazy.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:40 PM #23
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I didn't miss that part, I just glossed over it because you were simply incorrect like you always are. Spence, Crawford, Davis, Wilder, Thurman, Lomachenko and Pacquiao draw in large crowds in multiple cities. And Jose Ramirez has been exposed by the CSAC for giving away over 5k tickets to all of his hometown events, he just can't sell tickets. Sorry man but the mexican fan base is simply a media made myth. Non-mexican fighters continue to sell better than Mexicans in the US.
Youíre hate for Mexicans is not healthy itís an obsession.

Canelo ****tts on spence, Crawford, Davis, wilder, Loma, ggg with ****innnnn ease.

Facts boy.
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Old 09-11-2019, 08:52 PM #24
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I didn't miss that part, I just glossed over it because you were simply incorrect like you always are. Spence, Crawford, Davis, Wilder, Thurman, Lomachenko and Pacquiao draw in large crowds in multiple cities. And Jose Ramirez has been exposed by the CSAC for giving away over 5k tickets to all of his hometown events, he just can't sell tickets. Sorry man but the mexican fan base is simply a media made myth. Non-mexican fighters continue to sell better than Mexicans in the US.
CSAC also exposed Loma fights as having a lot of comps and exposed Porter as not being able to draw flies. Most boxing cards have a lot of comps because boxing's such a niche sport. Wilder can't even sell out arenas in Alabama. Crawford's fights in Vegas have also not had the greatest attendance. Spence-Porter, which is a big ppv fight is selling much worse than Fury-Wallin and GGG-Derevyanchenko on several ticket reseller sites. The PPV will probably flop. Even a fringe contender UFC fighter like Nate Diaz can get more buys than any of these guys simply because he has Mexican heritage.

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Old 09-11-2019, 08:54 PM #25
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Damn you're just obsessed with black dudes aren't you? It's not my fault Spence, Broner and Mayweather mocked you nationalistic mexicans. Every time you read threads about how mexican boxers can't sell and have small crowds at their events, you go absolutely crazy.

See first off everyone in boxing is after the Mighty Mexican dollar not the black EBT card thats why even the Proud black people you take pride in like Spence, Mayweather etc sell themselves out to kiss ass for that mighty Mexican dollar. These are just facts. So you can run all the smear campaign you want lmfao it does nothing at all to change reality other than to make you feel some type of way in your pathethic life for a moment. So carry on lil boy, I wonder who the next black boxer will be to dress up Mexicans style and kiss ass?
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:02 PM #26
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What Top Rank fails to realize is that Mexicans simply do not sell and their fan base is disgustingly overrated, so making Tyson Fury wear Mexican colors and wave around the Mexican flag is futile. Let's take a look at all the Mexican champions who headlined a main event this year and see how big of a crowd they brought in. Note: This does not factor in the tickets they gave away.

Navarrete vs. De Vaca, August 17, 2019
Venue: Banc of California Stadium
Crowd: 3,944

Vargas vs. Kameda, July 13, 2019
Venue: Dignity Health Sports Park
Crowd: 2,730

Cancio vs. Machado ll, June 26th, 2019
Venue: Fantasy Springs Resort Casino
Crowd: 2,500

Valdez vs. Sanchez, June 6, 2019
Venue: Reno-Sparks Convention Center
Crowd: 2,412

Berchelt vs. Vargas ll, May 11, 2019
Venue: Tuscon Convention Center
Crowd: 4,424

Estrada vs. Rungvisai ll/Daniel Roman vs. TJ Doheny, April 26, 2019
Venue: The Forum
Crowd: 5,127

Santa Cruz vs. Rivera, February 16, 2019
Venue: Microsoft Theater
Crowd: 5,000

Munguia vs. Inoue, January 26, 2019
Venue: Toyota Center
Crowd: 7,408

So as you can see, Mexican champions can't even get other Mexicans to come out and watch them, what makes you think Mexicans are going to come out and buy tickets to watch a Gypsy in a sombrero? Epic fail by Top Rank
So then why did Floy copy Oscar and Chavez and begin to fight on Mexican holidays and wear a sombrero and say Mayweather loves Mexico ????

Lmmmaaaaaaoooooooooooo
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:06 PM #27
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See first off everyone in boxing is after the Mighty Mexican dollar not the black EBT card thats why even the Proud black people you take pride in like Spence, Mayweather etc sell themselves out to kiss ass for that mighty Mexican dollar. These are just facts. So you can run all the smear campaign you want lmfao it does nothing at all to change reality other than to make you feel some type of way in your pathethic life for a moment. So carry on lil boy, I wonder who the next black boxer will be to dress up Mexicans style and kiss ass?
Bwahahahhaa what happened to the mexican dollar when Rey Vargas and Emmanuel Navarrete each failed to sell 3k tickets at their events? Navarrete sold 1.4k and Vargas sold 2.7k, the rest of the crowd got free tickets from comps. And even the tickets they sold were CHEAP AF, like $5 was the lowest price. The mexican dollar is so mighty that mexican champions need to give away CHEAP tickets? Somethings not adding up kid. I wonder who the next black boxer is to mock mexicans and then continue to whoop their mexican opponents ass?
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:14 PM #28
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So then why did Floy copy Oscar and Chavez and begin to fight on Mexican holidays and wear a sombrero and say Mayweather loves Mexico ????

Lmmmaaaaaaoooooooooooo
Mayweather only fought on mexican holidays twice, once against De La Hoya because he was forced to and once against Miguel Cotto willingly. He never fought on Cinco De Mayo ever again.

He never fought on mexican independence day ever

And he wore a sombrero to mock mexicans. Simple
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Old 09-11-2019, 09:28 PM #29
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What Top Rank fails to realize is that Mexicans simply do not sell and their fan base is disgustingly overrated, so making Tyson Fury wear Mexican colors and wave around the Mexican flag is futile. Let's take a look at all the Mexican champions who headlined a main event this year and see how big of a crowd they brought in. Note: This does not factor in the tickets they gave away.

Navarrete vs. De Vaca, August 17, 2019
Venue: Banc of California Stadium
Crowd: 3,944

Vargas vs. Kameda, July 13, 2019
Venue: Dignity Health Sports Park
Crowd: 2,730

Cancio vs. Machado ll, June 26th, 2019
Venue: Fantasy Springs Resort Casino
Crowd: 2,500

Valdez vs. Sanchez, June 6, 2019
Venue: Reno-Sparks Convention Center
Crowd: 2,412

Berchelt vs. Vargas ll, May 11, 2019
Venue: Tuscon Convention Center
Crowd: 4,424

Estrada vs. Rungvisai ll/Daniel Roman vs. TJ Doheny, April 26, 2019
Venue: The Forum
Crowd: 5,127

Santa Cruz vs. Rivera, February 16, 2019
Venue: Microsoft Theater
Crowd: 5,000

Munguia vs. Inoue, January 26, 2019
Venue: Toyota Center
Crowd: 7,408

So as you can see, Mexican champions can't even get other Mexicans to come out and watch them, what makes you think Mexicans are going to come out and buy tickets to watch a Gypsy in a sombrero? Epic fail by Top Rank
Might want to worry about your own lane first before speaking on other peoples... then again you probably too stupid to understand that.
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