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Old 08-16-2010, 01:28 AM #11
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Hah! I knew it, it seems akward a hard-hitting Mosley seemed to lose pace just after 2nd round. Pavlik said he was overtrained, dude this guy might be old but he has stamina, often fight till the 12th and never been knocked down.
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It's not easy to finish floyd,his skills kept mosley away.

A question to mr roidquiao..how come he couldn't finish clottey?

Clottey wasn't throwing anything at all so I don't see the reason for him holding back..or is it maybe that arum already set the winner before the fight even started?
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When I first joined B/R as contributor last May, my first article was about the May 1 fight between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley.

In my first article entitled "Questions on Mosley's Second Round Assault on Mayweather, Jr," I dealt with the reasons why Shane Mosley was not able to sustain his attack on Mayweather when it was so clear that the undefeated boxer lost his senses after being hit hard by Mosley in the second round:

"Boxing analysts are saying Mosley could have finished Mayweather in the second round of their fight. It was evident that Mayweather was hurt real bad in the round that 'just a little more effort' could have ended the bout in favor of Mosley via KO.

But the real question is why did Mosley 'held on'? It was quite clear from any angle that Mosley had his punching power and senses working for him in that round and even an amateur boxer would tell you it was a won fight in favor of Mosley".

I thought it was appropriate to revisit the Mosley-Mayweather fight after some B/R writers and commenter shifted their discussion on the second round assault that almost floored the undefeated boxer.

Niel de la Cruz, a very active commenter in our boxing community, said in one of his comments:

"I felt that it was fixed. If you'll watch the fight again, Mosley looked worried after hitting Floyd that almost knocked the latter down (it's like he realized that he was not following orders). After that shot, Mosley changed- from a fast strong fisted guy to slow, out-of-focused boxer. Mosley's foot work & defense changed after just two rounds.

"It's stupid to assume that Floyd's change of strategy made all the difference from 3rd to last round since one must focus also on Mosley's negative performance transition that gave Floyd a walk in the cloud 3rd to 12 round".

In the first round, Mayweather failed to land a single power punch or a combination of punches that could have weakened Mosley and justified his failure to finish Mayweather in that round.

In the second, Mayweather was clearly out of his senses.

Mosley, however, was fresh and very dangerous in the first and second rounds.

Niel continues his theory:

"My conspiracy theory: It's a fact that Floyd and Mosley were acquaintances, as they played basketball together. Floyd was accused of ducking Mosley and cherry picking his fights. On the other hand, Mosley was desperate for a fight (almost 2 years that he was not getting any payday). And Floyd was desperate to prove something.

"The one year vacation of Floyd (which he had time playing basketball with Mosley) premeditated Floyd's comeback fights (Marquez taking up to welterweight as warm up fight & a fixed fight with Mosley)."

Other commenters have sided with Niel's explanation while some members of the community disagreed.

Filipino boxer Manny Pacquiao, when asked about Mosley's devastating second-round attack, didn't understand the boxer's change in attack.

“I saw that, I did,” Pacquiao said. “If I can hit Mayweather like that, I will finish him off. I would continue the attack in a way that Mosley did not. I will attack until Mayweather is gone.”

Niel offers a test for his theory:

"We know what Mosley did to Margarito. He never got tired. One possible gauge will be Mosley's fight with Mora. I'm sure you'll see a non-stop action packed fight that Mosley is known for. Very different to his fight with Floyd."

So, was the fight fixed?

Niel's theory shows it may have been.


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One day the world will find out that the fight was fixed. Mayweather is a fraud why do you think he doesn't want to get in the ring with Pac?
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:40 AM #15
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It's just sad that Mosely had to sell out like that.

Then again he was desperate enough to take steroids when he probably didn't even need them.
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It's not easy to finish floyd,his skills kept mosley away.

A question to mr roidquiao..how come he couldn't finish clottey?

Clottey wasn't throwing anything at all so I don't see the reason for him holding back..or is it maybe that arum already set the winner before the fight even started?
Because Clottey shut himself closed, no openings even for a volume puncher. I think the more apt question is why Pac didn't finish Larios, or a game JMM.

As for a modern match being fixed, is say BS. Shane was guaranteed money whether he throws a fight or not.

Besides, Shane was the underdog so he couldn't have thrown the fight, it would make better sense for a favorite to throw a fight, resulting in huge pay-offs for fight fixers.

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The fight could've been fixed.

Maybe.

I wouldn't put it past Mayweather to do something like that to protect his 0.

Mosley would follow along just for the money.

He was desperate for a paycheck after his wife Jin took most of his Money.

Floyd could've allowed Mosley to fight him for a payday on the terms that Mosley agree to lose.

It's possible since the fight seemed really fishy after the 2nd round.

Oh well, the world will never know.
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Because Clottey shut himself close, no open opportunities. I think the more apt question is why Pac did finish Larios, or a game JMM.

As for a modern match being fixed, is say BS. Shane was guaranteed money whether he throws a fight or not.

Besides, Shane was the underdog so he couldn't have thrown the fight, it would make better sense for a favorite to throw a fight, resulting in huge pay-offs for fight fixers.
The only problem is that Shane is affiliated with Goldenboy who co-promotes Mayweather's fights.

Why would Goldenboy want to jeopardize the Pac-May fight?

It makes sense for Mosley to throw the fight.

He hadn't fought for nearly 2 years, coming off a costly divorce and was begging for a big payday against Mayweather.
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The only problem is that Shane is affiliated with Goldenboy who co-promotes Mayweather's fights.

Why would Goldenboy want to jeopardize the Pac-May fight?

It makes sense for Mosley to throw the fight.

He hadn't fought for nearly 2 years, coming off a costly divorce and was begging for a big payday against Mayweather.
Yes we could speculate, however, IMHO, i don't think it was fixed 'cause Shane is too proud to do something like that. besides, he lost a lot of money, but he ain't THAT desperate, considering he ain't the one being chased by the tax authorities. He may need money, but not that much, that he throws a fight. I've seen GBP promoted boxers fighting another GBP cashcow and still give it their best.
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