How would boxing history change if

[Larry the boss]

Young Ali-Cassius Clay lost to Liston?

Spinks beat Tyson

Duran beat Hagler

Tito beat Hopkins

Oscar beat Manny and Mayweather

[All in]

Young Ali-Cassius Clay lost to Liston?

Spinks beat Tyson

Duran beat Hagler

Tito beat Hopkins

Oscar beat Manny and Mayweather

Ali losing to Liston would have more impact on history and revenue that all others listed. Ali became an icon. If he loses to Liston boxing would never have become what it is. Hell this forum probably wouldn't have happened.

[juggernaut666]

1/ Ali vs Liston

Had Liston beat Ali ppl would just say Ali was green ...not much would change tbh. i belive ali would find a way to be the ultimate fighter no matter what,despite personally i think he was overatted ( not in historical terms,you could make a case hes the greatest) but it would put certain things into perspective that a big puncher could hurt ali and we saw that in the cooper fight and he was only 185 pounds. it would also given Frazier more leverage and a possible 60's match?

2/ Tyson vs Spinks

well had Spinks MIRACULOUSLY beat tyson ( I dont know how he does) well it ruins Tyson and any conversation of him being Head to head the best fighter. If spinks out boxes tyson it shows a guy with no power and a natural LHw can indeed defeat tyson it opens up a can of worms for others. At this point Lewis and ali are the big talks,as usually its Tyson and Ali.

3/ Oscar vs Mayweather

If he defeats Mayweather..it somewhat slows the Floyd argument hes the best P4p fighter ever and probably makes him more humble but like ali,he finds a way to readjust and become the man in boxing and selling fights. Hes the type that could convince guys he had a off night. Oscar in turn gets recognized better in history how much is specualtive?

Those are the 3 i know something about. all in all tyson and ali winning made boxing exciting i believe the HW's are what carried the sport in general. Fighters like them even in bad media like current fury brings spot light ,but Ali shaoed the popularity while Tyson brought in a super hero like character or villain depending on view.

I do believe Tyson brought boxing to a world wide fan base more than anyone with more media /video games headlines etc...ironically boxing owes that guy for ushering in the 90's guys and getting non fans to watch which helped the sport from the dry early 80's era.

i dont beleive the other fights would alter boxxngs course much.

[DeLorean]

judge Jerry Roth saved Mayweather's unblemished record by giving him the 12th round against De La Hoya, a round he clearly lost. had Roth gave it to Oscar that fight is a draw.

as far as Ali.. a good question would be where would he be ranked had Frazier declined to rematch him after beating him. he could've easily ran away with that W. .without a rematch there is no Thrilla in Manila.

what if Ken Norton and Leon Spinks also had declined to rematch Ali.. a huge chunk of Ali's legacy is built on rematches.

[FeFist]

Ali losing to Liston wouldn't change much. As said, it would be chalked up to inexperience. Mentally Ali has shown that he can bounce vack from a loss.

Tyson is hard to say. It could completely shatter his legacy assuming he accomplished no more that what he has today. To an extent people rely on speculating what he was capable of in his prime which would be crushed by losing to a bloated LHW.

On the other hand, a loss early in his career, when he had better people around him, may have given him a greater sense of discipline and commitment.

Duran and Hagler wouldn't change much. Add to an already great legacy, take something from a gteat legacy.

Trinidad beating Hopki s would probably see a rematch between Oscar and Trinidad. Doubt much would change for Hopkins; in the long run he is a fighter that succeds through attrition as opposed to o e defining fight.

De La Hoya situation is strange. If Oscar beat Mayweather, there would probably be a rematch preventing the Pacquiao fight from happening.

Assuming he beat both of them. Pacquiao would probably be more active at 140 (think he'd still knock out Hatton) and Floyd at 147. Oscar would have a third fight with Mosley after the Margarito beating.Mayweather and Pacquiao would probably end up fighting sooner.

[Real King Kong]

Spinks would get the respect he deserves. One of the best lhw of all time and he gets clowned on as the guy who got starched by tyson...like that's all he ever did.

[Reloaded]

Question makes no sense at all, we would not know any different and be touting other champions that take their place thats all, the deeper you think on it the more out there it gets.

What would happen if a man turned left instead of right, changes the world we live in.

[Scipio2009]

Young Ali-Cassius Clay lost to Liston?

Spinks beat Tyson

Duran beat Hagler

Tito beat Hopkins

Oscar beat Manny and Mayweather

-If Liston were to beat Ali, it likely would've ruined Ali's career; with the way that Clay's/Ali's religion was played against him, it would've been a cold day in hell before Ali would've gotten another shot at the title.

-Spinks beating Tyson, depending on how the fight goes, would've had similar impact to the Douglas defeat, in that Tyson would no longer be viewed as invincible. Fighters now see that they may have a chance, and Tyson's vices take over.

-Duran v Hagler, n/a

-If Tito beat Hopkins, the boxing world would've had a massive change, imo. Trinidad would've been the middleweight kingpin, after already having beaten Oscar De La Hoya, and he'd be positioned to be on top for a while longer. With Don King having the middleweight kingpin (just as Mike Tyson was being pushed out of the limelight), Don King Productions would've continued on as a promotional force in boxing, undoing the consolidation of the sport on HBO (under Top Rank).

-Oscar beating Floyd and Manny would've, for the first time in his entire career, put Oscar into serious consideration for being the best p4p fighter on the planet.