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  • Originally posted by Reyes101 View Post
    He does love and So does he forgive but he plays no games with us. we knows whats expected of us, we know right from wrong and we are held accountable for everything we've done from the day we came into this world, come our judgement, he will either reward me with his kingdom or Say "DEPART FROM ME" and i's spend the rest of eternity in Hell.

    God doesn't forgive just because you repent or ask for forgiveness, he only forgives if HE knows that your heart was sincere when asking for forgiveness. God says he does NOT hear the prayer of sinners.

    The same God you think is All Loving God, destroyed two cities and set fire too them, killing everyone in the cities.

    The same God you think is All Loving Flooded the entire world and whipped out 98% of the worlds population.

    The same God you think is All Loving, killed the firstborn of the pharaoh, and killed many of egyptians.

    The same God, you think is All Loving created this Place of torment for evil souls to go to.....not for a million years but FOREVER which is something our brains can't comprehend yet.

    But yes the bible teaches that God is so Loving and Loves everyone which also isn't true, according to the his word. In the bible God had a chosen people., a nation who should reign over all nations but they were stiff necks as the scripture calls them, and broke the covenant by not following the laws so sent curses upon them; hold on.....i thought GOD was all loving and forgiving.....Wrong......He does is fair, what is right.

    Humans think its fair to go your entire life living in wickedness and sin, with no regards for life or whats to come next, and just by accepting christ you got to heaven......NOT TRUE...whats fair is sin for sin, soul for soul were not kids, were more than responsible enough to be accounted for our actions, people just DONT FEAR GOD and when you Don't Fear him , you sin. If you knew for a fact that if u told that lie, then Giant demonic demons would cut off your tongue, and stuff hot coals in your mouth as of punishment then you wouldnt!! but Since your on earth and you don't have an immediate consequence, he spares us by continuing to give us time to repent and turn away completely from sin. Which is why I stress repentance to everyone!

    In that case, yes he forgives and Loves, but only as sincere as your prayer to him.
    I actually agree with all that except I would call it tough love where he disciplines heavily his children. On the other hand, Jesus also knows those who don't want to go to heaven so he allows them some rewards on earth, keeps Satan off their back and then then destroys them foever in the second death, which is merciful love too.

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    • Originally posted by maracho View Post
      I actually agree with all that except I would call it tough love where he disciplines heavily his children. On the other hand, Jesus also knows those who don't want to go to heaven so he allows them some rewards on earth, keeps Satan off their back and then then destroys them foever in the second death, which is merciful love too.
      Im going to have to agree to disagree, nothing you stated was wrong, i just want to clarify that God's Love is different than Human Love. Human love has to do with your heart, feelings and emotions for one another, where as in gods eyes thats NOT love.

      1 John 5:3 Loving God means keeping his commandments, and his commandments are not burdensome.

      It has nothing to do with how you feel towards a person, not stating you did say that which you didn't, i just wanted to show what love is according to God and not Man.

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      • Originally posted by Reyes101 View Post
        Im going to have to agree to disagree, nothing you stated was wrong, i just want to clarify that God's Love is different than Human Love. Human love has to do with your heart, feelings and emotions for one another, where as in gods eyes thats NOT love.

        1 John 5:3 Loving God means keeping his commandments, and his commandments are not burdensome.

        It has nothing to do with how you feel towards a person, not stating you did say that which you didn't, i just wanted to show what love is according to God and not Man.
        Yes all I said is scriptural and when we are filled with the Holy Spirit we do expatience agape beyond human understanding and emotion even for our enemies. Moreover, Jesus did experience all kinds of emotional love and pain

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        • Originally posted by maracho View Post
          Yes all I said is scriptural and when we are filled with the Holy Spirit we do expatience agape beyond human understanding and emotion even for our enemies. Moreover, Jesus did experience all kinds of emotional love and pain
          Agree, Enjoy your +1 Karma

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          • Originally posted by reyes101 View Post
            agree, enjoy your +1 karma
            yeah!!!!!!!

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            • i have no issues with religion as long as:

              - it is personal and private...
              - the one who practices it really wants to help people and not just to please a deity...
              - ain't used to print money...
              - not use it as a tool for mind conditioning...
              - and most of all not to espouse violence...

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