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Old 06-24-2018, 08:09 AM #21
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I don't get it, why is Donkey Wilder avoiding a big payday? He really hates boxing fans and money at the same time!
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:11 AM #22
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Forget all this shi*e.... I can't wait to see these two in a ring.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:11 AM #23
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Here is a documented negotiations between the two from World Boxing News that i further expanded on since i HAVE the mental capacity to to do that !

Important note before time line : Wilder states it shouldn't be about money but legacy .#FACTS

He also refuses to promote the fight by not going Joshuas Parker fight to be a PAID commentator ! #FACTS


Here's a full timeline of events leading up to this point:

1 . March 23, 2018 - Joshua fires the first warning to Wilder.

Anthony Joshua WARNS Deontay Wilder on undisputed clash: Get SERIOUS or we'll FREEZE YOU OUT! Beligerent Wilder demands 50 % while being a nuisance on social media . #FACTS

2 .March 28 - Joshua confirms intentions to open talks

Anthony Joshua recalls previous efforts to fight Deontay Wilder, fully intends to open talks again and give the idiot whos playing hard ball another chance . #FACTS .

3. March 30 - Sky Sports Head of Boxing Adam Smith says he doesn't expect a deal until 2019

EXCLUSIVE: Anthony Joshua v Deontay Wilder COULD BE A YEAR AWAY, says Sky Boxing Chief . Just about every smart boxing insider thinks the fight wont happen next due to a huge build up . #FACTS .

4. April 1 - Deontay Wilder's team give the*first indication they will accept a deal in the UK . This is Wilder admitting he will fight in the U.K #FACTS .

EXCLUSIVE: Message to Joshua from Wilder team - 'WE ACCEPT, send CONTRACTS immediately!' HA.. APRIL FOOLS !

5. April 2 - Initial talks and potential terms are revealed

Joshua v Wilder: Fans given REAL HOPE of UNDISPUTED clash as 60-40 TERMS and TALKS are revealed .The Wilder 40% demand is a sticking point ( that is 20/ plus Million ) #FACTS

6. April 3 - Wilder accepts a fight in the UK.

Deontay Wilder releases statement on Anthony Joshua fight the problem is he hasnt agreed to the purse split #FACTS

7. April 4 - Joshua promoter Eddie Hearn reveals contact with Al Haymon

Hearn OPENS TALKS for Joshua v Wilder, reveals why UNDISPUTED clash NEEDS TO HAPPEN NEXT #FACTS

8. April 5 - Joshua's mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin throws a spanner in the works

Povetkin demands threaten Joshua v Wilder undisputed fight so itis up to Wilder to move fast and stop playing games #FACTS

9 . April 8 - Shelly Finkel outlines his reservations about Joshua accepting the fight

Shelly Finkel: Only way Deontay Wilder fight doesn't happen will be down to Anthony Joshua ? Really hows that hes the A side and decides the major stipulations and this is the FIRST stalling tactic of team Wilder #FACTS

10 . April 9 - Joshua rejects fighting Povetkin

Joshua DISMISSES Povetkin, wants WBA mandatory DELAY as Wilder undisputed OFFER is prepared and team Joshua are going after Wilders title #FACTS

11. April 10 - AJ states he wants home advantage for the initial fight

'UK first, then USA - If I was Deontay Wilder, I'd grab this great deal!' - Anthony Joshua . This is a DIRECT PROVEN statement Joshua makes and hes clearly giving Wilder an opportunity to accept the fight that he CHOOSES in the U.K way before a 50 Million counter offer .#FACTS

12 . April 11 - Joshua's opening offer is revealed to be $12.5m

Joshua offers Wilder far more then he ever had and expects a counter offer which comes OVER 2 weeks later . This was also met with Finkel MAKING plans to meet Hearn for negotiations ( which was FAST Finkel cancelled )#FACTS

13 . April 26 - Wilder counters Joshua with huge $50m USA deal

Deontay Wilder counters Anthony Joshua by granting $50m MEGA-PURSE wish, sets DEADLINE of 24 hours,NO communications the next day after Finkel cancelled 2 negotiations meetings . lol #FACTS

14 . April 26 - Hearn asks for proof the money exists

SHOW ME THE MONEY! - Hearn admits interest in Wilder's $50m purse offer, Joshua wants proof . This is not provided . #FACTS

15 . May 14 - Povetkin representatives hold talks with Matchroom in London as talks stall

Hearn meets with Povetkin promoter Ryabinskiy, means one of two things for Joshua v Wilder it will or wont happen and its a team Wilder reluctance to let the A side dictate terms . #FACTS

16 .May 20 - A USA venue is effectively ruled out for the first contest Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue

Joshua v Wilder: Undisputed fight in jeopardy over US / UK venue This is nonsensical as the Bside is trying to strong arm tactics and are holding up progress #FACTS

17 .May 21 - Team Povetkin await confirmation of September fight with Joshua

EXCLUSIVE: World of Boxing seek Joshua v Povetkin green light for SEPTEMBER FIGHT, unsure of Wilder intentions #FACTS

18 .May 22 - Joshua officially rejects $50m United States offer

Eddie Hearn explains Anthony Joshua decision NOT TO ACCEPT $50m to face Deontay Wilder in USA #FACTS

19 .May 29 - Wilder signals intentions to fight Joshua in the UK ( AGAIN )

Deontay Wilder says Anthony Joshua fight WILL HAPPEN, possibly SEPTEMBER in UK which should have been met without games being played in the first place . #FACTS

20 . June 2 - Joshua attempts to draw out Wilder with Povetkin threat

Anthony Joshua v Alexander Povetkin CLOSE as heavyweight king TURNS BACK ON undisputed Deontay Wilder clash #FACTS

21 .June 4 - Hearn states Povetkin fight is more likely than Wilder

Eddie Hearn says 'at the moment it's Joshua v Povetkin', holds out hope for Deontay Wilder agreement but Wilder insists on 40% #FACTS .

22. June 11 - Wilder accepts counter deal offered by Hearn and Joshua after more time is wasted .

WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder ACCEPTS Anthony Joshua terms with REMATCH CLAUSE for 2018 UK CLASH - says Shelly Finkel . He accepts terms but he still needs to SIGN the contract which may need time to get sorted out .#FACTS

23 .June 12 - Wilder co-manager and trainer Jay Deas reveals terms of new UK deal

EXCLUSIVE: Wilder trainer Deas confirms Joshua offer is 'WAY LESS' than their $50m, looks forward to UK clash. This is FAKE news bc Joshua will make over 30 Million in the U.K and have home field advantage . #FACTS

24 .June 13 - Finkel accuses Hearn of confusing fans regarding negotiations

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn CONTRADICTED himself on Joshua v Wilder NEGOTIATIONS - says Shelly Finkel ???????? Just go through the time line for that one

25 .June 14 - Hearn says Joshua v Wilder reigns have been handed over to father Barry . This is to actually ATTEMPT Finkel to get a vontract signed .

EXCLUSIVE: Eddie Hearn responds to Shelly Finkel comments, updates on Joshua v Wilder talks #FACTS

26. June 17 - Wilder alludes to the possibility of Joshua backing out of a deal . ( Which could have already been signed ) Again go through the time line !

Joshua v Wilder: WBC Champ goads rival as undisputed agreement deadline looms and mysteriously as USUAL it is team Wilder in the media again . #FACTS

27. June 19 -*CONFIRMED:*Joshua*v*Wilder*CONTRACT SENT for heavyweight SUPER-FIGHT*...#FACTS

28. June 19 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*UNDISPUTED deal REMAINS ALIVE, in THE HANDS of Deontay*Wilder's team*...#FACTS

29 .June 20 -*EXCLUSIVE: Anthony*Joshua*v Deontay*Wilder*- Contract being CONSIDERED, deal hangs IN THE BALANCE*...#FACTS

30 .June 20 -*Joshua*v*Wilder*contract sent THREE DAYS LATE comes with 'SIGN NOW OR WE FIGHT POVETKIN' warning*...This is NOT a fact bc different time zones and it was proven false .#FACTS

31. June 21 -*Clock ticking on*Joshua*v*Wilder*agreement as Povetkin waits*...#FACTS

32 . June 21 -*Showtime boss expects*Joshua*v*Wilder*confirmation*...#FACTS

33. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: 'I'm hearing it's*Joshua*v*Wilder*in October' - says Dereck Chisora*...#FACTS

34. June 21 -*EXCLUSIVE: Team*Wilder*LEFT WAITING FOR CLARIFICATION in order to MOVE FORWARD with*Joshua*CONTRACT*...#FACTS

35. June 22 -*Joshua*v*Wilder: TWO CONTRACT CLARIFICATION POINTS from an UNDISPUTED agreement*is answered Finkel is reportedly satisfied as Hearn reported...


There you go Wilder fangirls!



Now lets see if Wilder actually hss a brain and signs the contract !
BTW it's impressive how many trolls you triggered with this one post, lol.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:13 AM #24
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:17 AM #25
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Anyone with a brain knows it Joshua ducking moron.
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Old 06-24-2018, 08:59 AM #26
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Excellent work, although I fear that Wilder's believers are more interested in screaming and wailing and shouts of 'BOMB SQUAD' than they are in facts.

I think it will happen next. Wilder's delays and stalling were because he figured he had more leverage than he did in reality. He's now lost the negotiations pretty much, they'll get the wrinkles out of this next week and announce Cardiff in October, with a US rematch.
Wilders majority believers are fools who would rather be right then see the fight .

This thread directly shuts down ANY speculation as to why , what and where of the ACTUAL reality of whats transpired even if the fight happens or not .

Maybe Wilders fan girls will actually get on Wilders case now to have him sign but i doubt it as most arent actually boxing fans who lack any common sense and you will see that with certain replies on here .

In the end it shows how stupid they were to have continuously dig at Hearn , any REAL Wilder fan would have WANTED him to take the initial offer to get the fight in the first place .

And i took it easy on them , i could have really spiced what was already a written article but i know how fragile minded they are so i wanted to keep it simple . lol

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Old 06-24-2018, 09:16 AM #27
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BTW it's impressive how many trolls you triggered with this one post, lol.
Facts will tend to do that .

This particular group doesnt have an education for the most part OR they lack a good one so it just makes it worse for them bc it then requires an intelligent response which they dont have access to . lol


Wilder himself and his recent interview where he states he talks to Joshua all the time or insinuates it is a lie .

That is OLD news with a one time occurrence where they talked about the fight , Wilder is a pathological liar and his fan base are to stupid to comprehend that .

He even claimed he showed Joshua that he would earn 100 Million or something in the U.S ?


What a retard , the fight is not 100 Million next it'll be lucky to do 60 right now .

A U.S rematch COULD be .

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For a guy that claims to live in America, juggernaut sure does seem to have a seething hatred for a lot of American fighters.
I haven't notice, he only seems to ridicule Wilder and his fool fans. Perhaps you are just a hater who needs somebody to hate?
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For a guy that claims to live in America, juggernaut sure does seem to have a seething hatred for a lot of American fighters.
"seething hatred for a lot of American fighters. "


Put your account up if you can provide this insight .

If not leave the forum or your a LIAR which one ?


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Go ahead dummy WAITING on this winning Derogatory remark towards me , thats non existing so we'll just call you a LIAR !

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