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Kelly Pavlik: If Khan Had A Better Chin He's Easily The P4P #1 !

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  • #21
    The way he bytches and annoys everyone now being an average ****, imagine if he were rated p4p, he'd drive away from boxing the few fans left

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    • #22
      Originally posted by satiev1 View Post
      Bull****. He has one of the lowest ring iq's out there. Dosen't vary his timing or rythym at all.
      Khan has one of the lowest ring IQ's? One of the stupidest posts ive ever seen on this site.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
        So there we have it, Pavlik reveals what many of the more astute boxing aficionados are already well aware of - Khan has been hovering around the P4P top spot for a long time, with one liability being a less than stellar punch resistance in some of his fights. And perhaps his main liability is that he was avoided so often. He tried to prove how good he was against the best many times but Mayweather kept avoiding the fight, as did the majority of prolific welterweights such as Pacquiao, Marquez, Bradley and Broner.

        What do you think.. If Khan consistently showed above average punch resistance is he easily the P4P #1 today?

        @2:00

        No, because his boxing brain always has that moment where it tunes out, and that simple bit always leaves him in a scary spot. 4 camps in with working with Virgil Hunter, Amir Khan could only still barely stay on fight plan at 147lbs for about 8 rounds before things started to fall apart.

        Amir Khan boxed a beautiful 3 rounds against Alvarez before his focus left and he fell back onto his bad habits; Alvarez took a bit of time, put Khan out of position in a trap, and left him for dead in the ring.

        Amir Khan is arguably the best 4-round fighter to ever put on gloves; the main thing keeping him from being p4p anything is that championship fights are 12 rounds.

        Once Khan falls into his pattern of marvelling at his own hand speed, he's there to be countered with hard shots for the rest of the fight, punch resistance or no punch resistance.

        Just imagine how many sustained beatings Amir Khan would've already taken had he not had that hair-trigger chin, lol.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
          No, because his boxing brain always has that moment where it tunes out, and that simple bit always leaves him in a scary spot. 4 camps in with working with Virgil Hunter, Amir Khan could only still barely stay on fight plan at 147lbs for about 8 rounds before things started to fall apart.

          Amir Khan boxed a beautiful 3 rounds against Alvarez before his focus left and he fell back onto his bad habits; Alvarez took a bit of time, put Khan out of position in a trap, and left him for dead in the ring.

          Amir Khan is arguably the best 4-round fighter to ever put on gloves; the main thing keeping him from being p4p anything is that championship fights are 12 rounds.

          Once Khan falls into his pattern of marvelling at his own hand speed, he's there to be countered with hard shots for the rest of the fight, punch resistance or no punch resistance.

          Just imagine how many sustained beatings Amir Khan would've already taken had he not had that hair-trigger chin, lol.
          he was knocked out twice in under 4 rounds. why are you saying these things?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by TheBigLug View Post
            Never understood this. It's like when people say Paulie would've been elite if he had power. Well no, because then he might not have had to develop other parts of his game as much to get by.

            Khan just isn't a great boxer, that's why he isn't a p4p fighter. He has good speed and not much else. You need more than that to get past really good fighters.

            His chin didn't let him down v Canelo. That shot would've knocked out anyone except a few fighters with real granite chins. He lost because he hasn't got the IQ to carry out a game plan at that level and gets sloppy and gets caught.
            Paulie didn't really need "power"; all his game needed was confidence enough in the structure of his hands to confidently sit down on the shots that he throws.

            Paulie has spent his career proving that he had the feet, eyes, and boxing brain to be special. Put him in a spot where folks aren't simply walking through his shot, and his future changes, whether the KO numbers jump drastically or not.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Scipio2009 View Post
              Paulie didn't really need "power"; all his game needed was confidence enough in the structure of his hands to confidently sit down on the shots that he throws.

              Paulie has spent his career proving that he had the feet, eyes, and boxing brain to be special. Put him in a spot where folks aren't simply walking through his shot, and his future changes, whether the KO numbers jump drastically or not.
              malignaggi spent his career proving he was nowhere near elite(aka not special). he proved he could get big fight after big fight based on losing badly and beating nobodies or simply robbing them like against ngoudjo or cano. his resume really is vomit but he had the connections and they wanted him to be better than he actually was... cept he wasn't. and he proved that.

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              • #27
                Don’t agree with kelly. Khan’s athletic gifts and a bit of boxing iq is what got him far in his career. But he’s no master boxer, and is pretty much basic fundametally.
                He doesn’t fight tall, doesn’t use his range wisely, doesn’t use his jab as effective as it could be, horrible footwork — it just look flashy. Doesn’t fight with discipline even though he knows right from the start that his chin is his problem — but he continues to deny it rather than adjust to it.
                Everyone was amazed how the first few rounds against canelo happened but i wasn’t and im not even a fan of canelo. He didn’t do ish, and was unable to even establish effective feints or a quick jab to the body— which he could do with his speed— to slow/disrupt alvarez from coming and getting into rhythm.
                I know he was the underdog, but with all his talks its hard to root for him.

                I dont think highly of khan, great God given talents except for the chin, but he could’ve developed them more than he did if he was smarter like most of his fans claimed him to be.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by satiev1 View Post
                  Bull****. He has one of the lowest ring iq's out there. Dosen't vary his timing or rythym at all.
                  BINGO. Khan doesn't even circle correctly on a consistent basis. He crosses his feet and doesn't allow himself to always be set to punch. Technically he is flawed, THAT'S what leads to to his chin being exposed regularly.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by satiev1 View Post
                    Bull****. He has one of the lowest ring iq's out there. Dosen't vary his timing or rythym at all.
                    Agreed. Kelly was punch drunk...again.

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                    • #30
                      and if Malignaggi had Wilder's right hand he'd be the GOAT.

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