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  • #11
    Yeah it lacks Depth but Charlo and possibly Andrade moving up helps it.

    Derevyanchenko, Ryota Murata, Hugo Centeno Jr, Luis Arias, Jason Quigley, Malcolm McAllister are a few guys on the rise in the Division but they're all still either untested or just not ready for any of the Top 5 Middleweights.

    Wouldn't mind seeing how Derevyanchenko would do vs GGG and/or Canelo

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    • #12
      these guys look like ATGs compared to the MWs of the last 10 years ie Sturm, Geale, Barker, Mundine, Martin Murray, Matthew Maklin etc
      That was the worst group of guys in boxing

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Banko Villas View Post
        Many weight classes are stacked with talent, but middleweight certainly isn't one of them. The majority just plain sucks. The best fighters there are a slow living boxing bag named Golovkin, a ginger who lost to Mayweather, Lara and Trout, an out-of-shape gypsy and a former cancer patient in Daniel Jacobs... They are good boxers, sure, but certainly not in the same league as guys like Terrence Crawford, Andre Ward, Anthony Joshua, Lomachenko, Rigondeaux, etc. When Wilder beats Ortiz, even Wilder will have a better resume than Golovkin. Middleweight is a dead division with way too few good fighters. If Golovkin moved down, he would lose to Lara, and if he moved up, he would lose to several super middleweights. Middleweight is just weak enough to control, but Jacobs and Canelo have weakened his grasp...
        You should go teach all these bums a lesson and become a champion.

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        • #14
          I disagree. I think GGG, Canelo and Jacobs could beat the three best 168 pound boxers and the three best 154 pound boxers so it's not so weak in my opinion. I just saw Ramirez fight and didn't see a boxer the 3 best middleweight couldn't beat. Canelo already beat Lara when he wasn't near as good as he is now and Lara is probably the best at 154. GGG and Jacobs also easily Lara in my opinion.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Raonic View Post
            They have 2 top 5/10 P4P fighters and good contenders moving up the rankings or already in the division. 168 is worse so never understood why people wanted GGG to move up the past year or 2 (when Ward was already 175).
            Canelo just schooled Golovkin. And Canelo lost to Floyd, Lara and Trout. Do you really think Golovkin would stand a chance against guys like Badou, DeGale and even Groves? Golovkin wouldn't last 1 fight at 168 lbs. Too wide a jump from the low level opponents he is used to. If you can't even beat Jacobs or Canelo, then stay at 160 lbs.

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            • #16
              Cotto was the lineal at 160. Cotto. Now Cotto is a great fighter, but he's not a middleweight. It's a garbage division, it's so bad Dominic Wade was made the mandatory to the so called pound for pound king. Only 97G fans wanna pretending 160 is/was strong

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Banko Villas View Post
                Canelo just schooled Golovkin. And Canelo lost to Floyd, Lara and Trout. Do you really think Golovkin would stand a chance against guys like Badou, DeGale and even Groves? Golovkin wouldn't last 1 fight at 168 lbs. Too wide a jump from the low level opponents he is used to. If you can't even beat Jacobs or Canelo, then stay at 160 lbs.
                Trout lost his fight. Lara was a toss up, although I had him winning by a round. Floyd fought a young ass Canelo at 152.

                Golovkin beats all three, don't be stupid.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Banko Villas View Post
                  Canelo just schooled Golovkin. And Canelo lost to Floyd, Lara and Trout. Do you really think Golovkin would stand a chance against guys like Badou, DeGale and even Groves? Golovkin wouldn't last 1 fight at 168 lbs. Too wide a jump from the low level opponents he is used to. If you can't even beat Jacobs or Canelo, then stay at 160 lbs.
                  Canelo got schooled.

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                  • #19
                    Not a slam on Crawford, but 160 is stacked much deeper than 140. It's also deeper with talent than LW, Jr. MW, SMW, LHW, CW and HW.

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                    • #20
                      That's your personal opinion which holds very little worth, unless you can provide sufficient proof / evidence for that opinion / claim.

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