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What would be BOXING's Mt. Rushmore??
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostHow do I know this? Because I've read countless books and viewed many, many hours of programming from various periods of history including prewar America. I'm also old enough to remember in my own lifetime the old timers talking about Jack Dempsey, Babe Ruth, Jessie Owens, Joe Louis, Johnny Unitas, Jim Thorpe, Ty Cobb and all the true legends of American sport.
You do realize that Jack Johnson was essentially "re-unearthed" with 'Unforgivable Blackness?' Yes?
Most people for a long time didn't know who the **** he was outside of Bert Sugar and boxing fans and historians. He was an underappreciated footnote as the first African American Heavyweight champ but nowhere near what he is now that he was reintroduced into popular culture as an important figure in the pre Civil Rights era.
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Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View PostHow do you know this? You don't. You're basing it on him being more celebrated.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostStubborn much?
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Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View PostIt's always about race with that guy. I am not a fan of Ali. But I am not so blinded by hate or bias that I can't recognize his impact on the sport. What Dempsey did for the sport during the twenties, Ali did for the sport in the sixties. He resurrected the sport.
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Originally posted by A-Wolf View PostSorry, bud. Johnson being African American and being the first Heavyweight champ of his persuasion does not put him in the same galaxy as a true American legend like Jack Dempsey. Race has nothing to do with this. Johnson was neither the fighter that Dempsey was nor did he transcend his job title the way that Dempsey did. This isn't even a discussion.
But.... but..... people liked Dempsey more....... is a ******ed argument.
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