Lomachenko is greater than Harry Greb

[ShoulderRoll]

After 12 fights, anyway.

I'm ready to proclaim this given that the Pittsburgh Windmill had two losses and a draw in his first twelve outings. And he beat 0 world champions during that time.

The numbers don't lie.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Manipulating numbers is easy. Lomachenko had almost 400 amateur fights. He boxed a minimum of 400 rounds and a maximum of 1200. The actual number is probably closer to 1,000. Greb, after boxing 1,000 rounds, was pretty much a certified all time great fighter.

Lomachenko at 25 years old had 1 pro fight to his name. Greb on the other hand had beaten Battling Levinsky, Bill Brennan, Mike Gibbons, Billy Miske, Chuck Wiggins, Jack Dillon, Mike O'Dowd, and Jack Blackburn. All better than the cab driver that Loma beat.

[BKM-]

Manipulating numbers is easy. Lomachenko had almost 400 amateur fights. He boxed a minimum of 400 rounds and a maximum of 1200. The actual number is probably closer to 1,000. Greb, after boxing 1,000 rounds, was pretty much a certified all time great fighter.

Lomachenko at 25 years old had 1 pro fight to his name. Greb on the other hand had beaten Battling Levinsky, Bill Brennan, Mike Gibbons, Billy Miske, Chuck Wiggins, Jack Dillon, Mike O'Dowd, and Jack Blackburn. All better than the cab driver that Loma beat.

lol even a TS posting a sarcastic post about this which actually agrees with your ideology, you still get upset and have to post that narrative to discredit a new great fighter.

[ShoulderRoll]

Manipulating numbers is easy. Lomachenko had almost 400 amateur fights. He boxed a minimum of 400 rounds and a maximum of 1200. The actual number is probably closer to 1,000. Greb, after boxing 1,000 rounds, was pretty much a certified all time great fighter.

Lomachenko at 25 years old had 1 pro fight to his name. Greb on the other hand had beaten Battling Levinsky, Bill Brennan, Mike Gibbons, Billy Miske, Chuck Wiggins, Jack Dillon, Mike O'Dowd, and Jack Blackburn. All better than the cab driver that Loma beat.

Do you think that when Greb was 12 fights into his career he could have beaten someone of the quality of Linares?

I think the answer is clearly no.

[TonyGe]

Do you think that when Greb was 12 fights into his career he could have beaten someone of the quality of Linares?

I think the answer is clearly no.

Greb didn't have the extensive amature career with access to the best trainers. If he did then yes he would have beat all these guys in his first 12 fights.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Lomachenko is a great fighter, but has much more to do before being among the greats

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Do you think that when Greb was 12 fights into his career he could have beaten someone of the quality of Linares?

I think the answer is clearly no.

You're rather ignorant on boxing from what I'm gathering in this thread.

Do you think winning two olympic gold medals means nothing?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

lol even a TS posting a sarcastic post about this which actually agrees with your ideology, you still get upset and have to post that narrative to discredit a new great fighter.

If op was being sarcastic then I didn't know. Hard to convey sarcasm through text. I haven't discredited Loma in any way. I think he has a good argument for being p4p number 1.

Be nasty all you want but I guarantee that the argument won't end well for you.

[ShoulderRoll]

You're rather ignorant on boxing from what I'm gathering in this thread.

Do you think winning two olympic gold medals means nothing?

So you're saying that an extensive amateur career has to be taken into account, and Lomachenko is not a typical 13 fight professional?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

So you're saying that an extensive amateur career has to be taken into account, and Lomachenko is not a typical 13 fight professional?

Wait was this sarcasm the entire time?