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Since Joshua has been exposed should the fighters he beat be dropped in the rankings?

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  • #11
    Definitely.

    And Parker beat Ruiz so he should now go up in the rankings.

    And Joshua beat Parker so he should go up in the rankings.

    But Joshua lost to Ruiz so he should go down in the rankings

    and Parker lost to Joshua so he should also go down in the rankings

    And Ruiz lost to Parker so he should go down in the rankings.

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    • #12
      You have to wait to see what's next for AJ , No?

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      • #13
        Absolutely not. Rankings don't work that way. they go one fight at a time. The only ones who go up or down are AJ and Ruiz. By your way of thinking Parker should go way up because he beat Ruiz and Whyte should go up because he beat Parker.

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        • #14
          Wlad must be kicking himself some more. He had Joshua in exactly the same spot as Ruiz in that 3rd but didn't let em go. Ruiz has a better chin than Wlad, although still a great effort for a 41 y/o veteran.

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          • #15
            No because those fighters have better resumes than guys outside of the top 10 and even some in the top 10

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            • #16
              Originally posted by boliodogs View Post
              Absolutely not. Rankings don't work that way. they go one fight at a time. The only ones who go up or down are AJ and Ruiz. By your way of thinking Parker should go way up because he beat Ruiz and Whyte should go up because he beat Parker.
              You make some very valid points. Styles do make fights and the "triad logic" has proven time and again not to be very effective. Just because fighter A beats fighter B, and fighter B beats fighter C, that doesn't necessarily mean that fighter A is better than fighter C. Several factors come into play, not the least of those being, styles.

              That said however, there are numerous ranking establishments today using varied formulas, and they rarely ever all agree. BoxRec for example, borrows somewhat from the College Football ranking system, and the current Wins or Losses of a fighter will affect the ranking of anyone who has fought that fighter in the past. Andy Ruiz Jr. went from #14 to #1 on BoxRec so Dimitrenko and Parker, as well as anyone else he fought, will see their ranking changed as well. Not to the same degree, but to a lesser extent based on the algorithm. It appears Joshua going from #1 to #3 would have proportionately a lesser effect. Ultimately, it depends on the criteria or data used by each ranking system. The major sanctioning bodies often provide rankings that are difficult to understand or reconcile, as well.

              At the end of the day, all ranking systems are subjective, and based on a measure of opinion. A fighter's true value is only as good as the next upset. Just ask Andy Ruiz, AJ, or Las Vegas.

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