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Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1 View PostI said Castillo would beat Floyd. He did. 49-1.
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Originally posted by JK1700 View PostIf you really paid attention to boxing you’d know Floyd called out Mosley in 99 and 06 he didn’t want it. Cotto in 05 and 06 “wasn’t ready” in the words of his own trainer. Bob showed no interest in the fight until Manny got KO’d after which they had nothing to lose by putting him in there with Floyd. These are all documented facts I get that you don’t like Floyd and you’re a huge Pacquiao fan but there’s no need to be so ignorant. Yeah all these guys were older but stop trying to act like Floyd is some sort of robot who doesn’t age either. He slipped just as much if not more than those guys. 2015 Mayweather was nowhere near as good as 2009 Mayweather. Just like he was way better in 2000 than he was in 2010. Do your research and you’ll see it was these guys that ducked him, not the other way around.
So no, I don't want to hear any excuses about how these guys didn't want to fight. Especially when Floyd became the cash cow. Who's really gonna believe anybody is ducking a defense first fighter like Floyd who is not a ko artist.Last edited by djtmal; 11-09-2017, 12:12 PM.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostI'm not a psych. The thread is about what a vast # of posters claimed and how they attempted to discredit Mayweather. Some still do.
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Originally posted by djtmal View PostOh yeah I really paid attention to Floyd and boxing, enough to know when the welterweight division was heating up, when Cotto, Shane, Margarito, Williams, etc. was willing and ready for Floyd after the Hatton fight, Floyd took a vacation and left those guys to beat up each other, only to return and fight little a** Juan Marquez, who was pulled up from lightweight, and to add insult to injury, Mayweather welched on the weight stipulation.
So no, I don't want to hear any excuses about how these guys didn't want to fight. Especially when Floyd became the cash cow. Who's really gonna believe anybody is ducking a defense first fighter like Floyd who is not a ko artist.
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Originally posted by JK1700 View PostI was ready to take you seriously before you mentioned Cotto and Shane who both ducked Floyd in 2006. Bumgarito? He had 2 chances blew them both against Mosley and Cotto. Williams? He probably would’ve got the fight if he beat Canelo in a fight that was scheduled in 2012 before his accident. Marquez? Most people think he beat Pacquiao at least 2 times of not 3 or 4 and you can make the case Mayweather is the only person who truly beat him. Spread all the propaganda you want these are the facts Mayweather beat all the top guys in his era and the ones he didn’t beat had a chance to get the fight but came up short in the fight they needed to win to get it. I’ll say it again - Mosley was asked about Mayweather in 06 and said himself he didn’t want the fight. Cotto admitted himself that he wasn’t ready. Pacquiao also could’ve got the fight earlier but Bob didn’t want it to happen and Manny was scared of needles so we ended up having to wait a few years.
floyd was expected to fight the winner of cotto/shane, and both said they are ready; cotto after winning said he was ready for all the big names, but floyd was on vacation...
floyd had previously turned down 8 million for margarito, and margarito called him out in public...
floyd walked away from a fight with winky wright...
floyd walked away from the pac table due to his own problems with pac and cutoff dates...
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Originally posted by considerthis View Postthere's plenty of ways to discredit mayweather, but losing fights isn't one of them...other than Castillo 1 imo. most of it is just nitpicking. his legacy is secure and can't really be diminished...all I'm saying is it could have been better.
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Originally posted by Sp0rty Cr@ig View PostI agree
But the fights I mentioned would have had more narrow odds. As I said before I still think he would win...
Floyd VS Canelo was a joke fight for example. NO ONE thought Canelo was ready
Simply not the case, loads of people thought Canelo was not only ready but would win.
The odds were narrow also.
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