Has George Groves redeemed himself in the past couple of years?

[-Kev-]

He looked like a weakling vs Carl Froch, getting KO'ed twice, including one fight in front of 80 thousand fans at Wembley in the rematch.

Since then he's fought a close fight vs Badou Jack, and beat Chudinov, Eubank Jr, and Martin Murray. He also will always have a win over a DeGale.

Does he look like a more legit fighter to you again? Did he redeem himself? And do you think he can beat Ramirez?

[Vegemil]

He looked like a weakling vs Carl Froch, getting KO'ed twice, including one fight in front of 80 thousand fans at Wembley in the rematch.

Since then he's fought a close fight vs Badou Jack, and beat Chudinov, Eubank Jr, and Martin Murray. He also will always have a win over a DeGale.

Does he look like a more legit fighter to you again? Did he redeem himself? And do you think he can beat Ramirez?

Idk if you're serious or trolling so I'll take it as a serious question. The first Carl Froch fight had him dismantling Froch until the ref stopped the fight horribly near the end to give Froch the win. Froch got the 2nd one legit.

Ramirez looks basic af but has his fundamentals down. I think Groves can win a close decision against him as well.

[-Kev-]

Idk if you're serious or trolling so I'll take it as a serious question. The first Carl Froch fight had him dismantling Froch until the ref stopped the fight horribly near the end to give Froch the win. Froch got the 2nd one legit.

Ramirez looks basic af but has his fundamentals down. I think Groves can win a close decision against him as well.

You don't "dismantle" Froch until a stoppage. That's just how Froch fights go. Happened to Taylor, and down the stretch Andre Ward also had more issues with Froch in the tail end of their fight. You either beat Froch or not. There's no "dismantling until the KO". If you got TKO'ed, flat on your back and didn't beat the count, that means you lost, plain and simple. There's no p*ssyfooting around that. Stop it.

[Vegemil]

You don't "dismantle" Froch until a stoppage. That's just how Froch fights go. Happened to Taylor, and down the stretch Andre Ward also had more issues with Froch in the tail end of their fight. You either beat Froch or not. There's no "dismantling until the KO". If you got TKO'ed, flat on your back and didn't beat the count, that means you lost, plain and simple. There's no p*ssyfooting around that. Stop it.

You mean he didn't beat the count he never got? Wow.

[Vegemil]

You don't "dismantle" Froch until a stoppage. That's just how Froch fights go. Happened to Taylor, and down the stretch Andre Ward also had more issues with Froch in the tail end of their fight. You either beat Froch or not. There's no "dismantling until the KO". If you got TKO'ed, flat on your back and didn't beat the count, that means you lost, plain and simple. There's no p*ssyfooting around that. Stop it.

Also he was never "flat on his back". Never even went down but yeah when Froch goes down you just have to give him the benefit of the doubt right?

[-Kev-]

Also he was never "flat on his back"

[chaosisme]

This is from the rematch...guy is obviously talking about the first fight. I know that, you know that, we all know that. Why is everyone on here such a douchebag?

[-Kev-]

This is from the rematch...guy is obviously talking about the first fight. I know that, you know that, we all know that. Why is everyone on here such a douchebag?

I know.

Vegemil turned a positive Groves thread into his very own Groves ball sucking thread.

Groves was laid out flat on his back by Froch. There's proof.

Groves was not "dismantling" Froch in the first fight. A KD doesn't mean you were dismantling anyone.

[chaosisme]

I know.

Vegemil turned a positive Groves thread into his very own Groves ball sucking thread.

Groves was laid out flat on his back by Froch. There's proof.

Groves was not "dismantling" Froch in the first fight. A KD doesn't mean you were dismantling anyone.

Agreed, troll on.

[-Kev-]

Agreed, troll on.

You fools are sensitive as ****. I actually like Groves. Get your b*tchasses out of my thread.