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  • #41
    old news is relevant now ?

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    • #42
      oh well...until now the suit is still on and pac has already agreed to ost.

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      • #43
        Nothing like riding a tired old house into the ground! Little does it distract from the fact that Mayweather did not want to fight Pacquiao even after Pacquaio gave in to testing. Why not create a bunch threads about Margarito and Cotto too? Mayweather avoided them as well!

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        • #44
          Originally posted by La_Vibora View Post
          I really really hope that Manny isn't using anything, that really isn't what this sport needs right now. Last thing we need is to have a scandal like this around one of our superstars.
          believe me he is on something...

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          • #45
            At issue is blood testing. Mayweather wants testing close to the fight as well as after, which became a deal-breaker for Pacquiao that has wiped out what could have been the biggest moneymaker of a fight in boxing history.

            "We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight," Arum told the Press.

            "Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and to me just signalled that he didn't want the fight."

            In a statement on Wednesday, Arum said Pacquiao agreed to random urine tests at any time and blood tests at a pre-fight news conference in two weeks in New York, another 30 days before the fight and one after the planned March 13 bout.

            "It's not about being tested," Arum said. "It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests as requested."

            What Pacquiao does not want to open himself up for are possible numerous random blood tests in the days before the fight, Arum said, indicating the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) will not administer tests outside its own rules.

            "USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that's ludicrous," Arum said.


            Arum said any of the independent agencies that test US team sport leagues, which are not governed by WADA rules, could easily handle the tests as Pacquiao wishes and allow the fight to be staged.

            "If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating 'a level playing field' as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease," Arum said.

            "If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about levelling the fight."

            Arum had sympathy for boxing fans who have been looking forward to seeing two of the sport's finest fighters meet in a fight expected to bring more than $US100 million ($A114.13 million) in revenue.

            "Sure they will be disappointed, but they've got to understand what's up," Arum told the Press. "We're not going to keep appeasing this guy for no damn reason, especially over something that would affect, psychologically, my fighter.

            "We're not going to be pushed around by this guy."

            Mayweather Promotions chief executive Leonard Ellerbe made the demand for WADA-style testing on December 12.

            "Manny Pacquiao doesn't know anything about drugs," Arum said. "This is just typical nastiness by wise guys like Ellerbe and Mayweather."

            Arum said telecaster HBO tried in vain Tuesday to find agreement on the testing but to no avail.

            "Forty years of fights in Las Vegas and nothing like this has ever come up," Arum said. "If you want more stringent testing, sure, as long as it doesn't inconvenience and psychologically affect Pacquiao, who cares?

            "It's the blood testing close to the fight, while he's in training, that's unnecessary. And everybody who knows anything about drug testing will tell you it's unnecessary."

            Possible next foes for Pacquiao, Arum said, include Mexico's Juan Manuel Marquez, American Paulie Malignaggi or unbeaten Israeli Yuri Foreman, the World Boxing Association super welterweight champion.

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            • #46
              this ts and his ***** friends are truly idiots.

              why would floyd accept the offer if he has proof that pac is cheating?

              if floyd accepts that just means pac is clean and this extra testing demand is unnecessary.

              stop fooling people homies. pac is not roiding, period.

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              • #47
                Iknow that these comments from Pac's camp are old, but PAc's camp from now on should just say no comment in regard to questions regarding the testing, and they will worry about that when the negotiations for the fight comes.

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                • #48
                  So if Roach shoots off his mouth ("I'm sure there's going to be tradeoff")
                  he's GOT to be speaking for Pacquiao and Arum, but if Floyd Sr. opens
                  his gaptoothed maw, he's not necessarily speaking for Floyd Jr.?

                  You only have to go over the past 5+ years of Freddie saying one thing
                  and then Team Pacquiao doing another, to know he's just the trainer.
                  he may have a little influence outside of training, but the only ones to
                  pay attention to are Bob and Pac... and Floyd Jr., of course.

                  -Floyd has said, "Agree to the tests, and we have a fight."

                  -Pac has already agreed, on video and in print, to "all testing",
                  with a hyperbolic "even in the middle of the fight" to boot.

                  We should have a fight, right? Nope.


                  -Bob wants a testing agency owned by someone other than Floyd's
                  personal friend Tygart, in effect maligning Tygart's (and USADA's)
                  integrity.

                  Even back in December of 2010, it was Bob stepping on the brakes.
                  Pac had already said --again, in print and video-- "huwag naman sa
                  araw ng laban mismo" meaning "just not on fight day", which is well
                  within Floyd's initial 14-day offer. Bob overruled Pac and demanded
                  several weeks of no-testing prior to fightnight.

                  Bob either doesn't believe Pac can beat Floyd, or he hates Floyd
                  so much, he's willing to damage Pac's image just to deny Floyd a
                  payday. Maybe it's both.

                  I happen to think Floyd is fronting when he calls it an 'easy fight'
                  to win, and that in 2010 he was hesitant to get in the ring with
                  Pac, else why challenge the guy fresh after a war with Cotto?
                  Pac's ear was still swollen, fer Pete's sake. I also think Pac was
                  as-unsure of his chances vs. Floyd. You could see it in his eyes
                  back then.

                  Now? Floyd has defeated Shane by decision, and Pacquiao has
                  put away a string of lesser opponents very convincingly. I think
                  they're both more than confident of their chances, and all that
                  prevents a fight getting signed is all this nitpicking by Bob.



                  Originally posted by La_Vibora View Post
                  PAc's camp from now on should just say no comment in regard to questions regarding the testing...
                  That would be the smart thing to do, wouldn't it?
                  Lots of smart things Team Pac coulda/shoulda done, but didn't.
                  Last edited by horge; 07-19-2011, 06:37 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by MindBat View Post
                    This has ALWAYS been Floyd's stance on the issue all along.

                    But there's a new book on the Amazon.com's best seller list with all the reasons Team Pacquiao has refused to take a random blood test since 2009.
                    yes, but if pac agrees with the ost, floyd should accept a testing agency other than usada..as a sort of give and take.....

                    pro boxing is not really tied up to usada....

                    also usada has no jurisdiction outside u.s.a.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by larry's brother View Post
                      At issue is blood testing. Mayweather wants testing close to the fight as well as after, which became a deal-breaker for Pacquiao that has wiped out what could have been the biggest moneymaker of a fight in boxing history.

                      "We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight," Arum told the Press.

                      "Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and to me just signalled that he didn't want the fight."

                      In a statement on Wednesday, Arum said Pacquiao agreed to random urine tests at any time and blood tests at a pre-fight news conference in two weeks in New York, another 30 days before the fight and one after the planned March 13 bout.

                      "It's not about being tested," Arum said. "It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests as requested."

                      What Pacquiao does not want to open himself up for are possible numerous random blood tests in the days before the fight, Arum said, indicating the US Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) will not administer tests outside its own rules.

                      "USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that's ludicrous," Arum said.

                      Arum said any of the independent agencies that test US team sport leagues, which are not governed by WADA rules, could easily handle the tests as Pacquiao wishes and allow the fight to be staged.

                      "If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating 'a level playing field' as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease," Arum said.

                      "If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about levelling the fight."

                      Arum had sympathy for boxing fans who have been looking forward to seeing two of the sport's finest fighters meet in a fight expected to bring more than $US100 million ($A114.13 million) in revenue.

                      "Sure they will be disappointed, but they've got to understand what's up," Arum told the Press. "We're not going to keep appeasing this guy for no damn reason, especially over something that would affect, psychologically, my fighter.

                      "We're not going to be pushed around by this guy."

                      Mayweather Promotions chief executive Leonard Ellerbe made the demand for WADA-style testing on December 12.

                      "Manny Pacquiao doesn't know anything about drugs," Arum said. "This is just typical nastiness by wise guys like Ellerbe and Mayweather."

                      Arum said telecaster HBO tried in vain Tuesday to find agreement on the testing but to no avail.

                      "Forty years of fights in Las Vegas and nothing like this has ever come up," Arum said. "If you want more stringent testing, sure, as long as it doesn't inconvenience and psychologically affect Pacquiao, who cares?

                      "It's the blood testing close to the fight, while he's in training, that's unnecessary. And everybody who knows anything about drug testing will tell you it's unnecessary."

                      Possible next foes for Pacquiao, Arum said, include Mexico's Juan Manuel Marquez, American Paulie Malignaggi or unbeaten Israeli Yuri Foreman, the World Boxing Association super welterweight champion.
                      u know to go and google some more,floyd had actualy agreed to use a different agency at that point but team pac still refused

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