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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postwtf
shape up..... p1ss off idiot
he dumped that shht because the WBC gave him 2 weeks to finalize a fight with a bunch of disingenuous liars who were obviously attempting to manipulate him
the WBC fcuked that fight..... it was never going to happen under those conditions and Team Bullshht were well-aware of that
want proof ?
FACT: they will fight in 2 days, WITHOUT any "help" from the WBC
shut your cakehole muppet..... sick of you clowns
angkag...... you were really not aware of that situation?
FFS, after Canelo dumped thaat shht he continued to negotiate with those liars, trying to make the fight..... because they said this..... "Now if Canelo vacates the title and it becomes a voluntary fight down the road in 2017, then anything is negotiable - the money, location and weight".....
but guess what happened..... ?
right, those fkn liars ran for the hills and totally refused to negotiate on weight..... again
only a boxingscene poster could possibly think that when the distinct B-side totally refuses to lift a finger or make any kind of concessions in order to land a meaningful fight, that it is appropriate to blame the other guy
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Originally posted by crold1 View PostThere's no double standard. We disagree. It was just a different set of circumstances. And it is possible to see two things differently almost a decade apart.
Erdei even briefly retired (though that was more about getting away from Kohl and there is some dispute there). Alvarez always said he was coming back to middleweight and while Ring is tied to his promoter, he always kept a footprint in the class that way. If Ring had recognized lineages in 1996, the proper Hill-Maske line might never have broken if he'd opted to hold that belt and dump WBO. As was, he left the class and vacated with no mandatory pressure to do so. Alvarez had a middleweight title fight in May 2016 (even if it was silly) and announced he'd fight the top guy in class in 9/2017, and is.
Even if you don't see Canelo as lineal, if GGG wins he still will be to Hopkins with no break. I almost pulled Canelo when TBRB did prior to Chavez based on a quote he gave but waited to see what was coming because if he was going to fight Golovkin next it didn't make much sense to list the lineage as dead when they'd be fighting for it months later
And they are.
No matter who wins this weekend, they will be the lineal king of the class.
All that said, I acknowledged well before you brought this up a couple months ago that there is another way to look at this:
http://www.boxingscene.com/end-line-...dendum--109582
The Ring magazine is the company paper of Canelo's promoter and should without hestation be dismissed as parameter in the debate.
Under objective criterias Canelo would be ex-champ in exactly the same way Erdei was. In case he isn't, there is a double standard or at least some not-transparent self-imposed criterias on your part based on sources you find in anglon medias only.
I suggest using objective criterias for lineage. It's not a new thing. Ring has done it and failed. TBRB failed as you decribed. You work on your own for boxingscene and you have a high star among the fight reporters. You should change your lineage for transparancy and consistencys sake.
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Originally posted by yoshik View PostWow! Common sense came out of that brain! Congrats dude!
and there ain't a man that can't be throwed
Most all greats in boxing have lost fights-it happens
Money Talks and Cash is King of the ring.
Golden Rule is who has the gold rules
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Originally posted by Progrssive_Jedi View PostOh god damn it stop that ****ing nonsense.
First, you sound dumb as **** saying signing a contract they knew was schedule after the Khan fight for 6 months, and knew he was mandatory for a year before the Cotto fight.
Two, his promotional status was not up for grabs, only money. He didn't even have to be in court. It was a lawsuit, not criminal proceeding. The only outcome was money. For **** sakes, stop ****ing lying you piece of **** bastards. It's pathetic.
At worst Canelo had to split 70/30 and fight at a weight he'd fight at a year later, and one where he was already heavier than the so called 160 boogieman.
K2 was very public they were not even trying for the WBC split. They had already granted the voluntary Canelo used on Khan.
Canelo team wanted nothing to do with ggg at that time, partly to get more money from garbage fights with smith and Chavez jr. But partly hoping gggg ages some.
When they were ready. So was Golovkin team. A fact De La Hoya readily admits.
You ****in Canelo apologist sound more moronic every ****ing day. The enrire sport after ggg went 12 with Jacobs looked to Canelo and said, you ready now. For **** sakes.
Wrong your the only apologist here, you tried to feed people the BS lie , that 147 Kell Brook was bigger then career long 160 pound GGG who said he could make 168 Easy. LMAO. Now that was pathetic. When your hero Golovkin himself said "Brook is too small for me". & still brought him up 2 whole weight classes. + You praised the Dominick Wade victory. That's sad.
No one turns down more fights then GGG.
CANELO met your queens demands , gave him the weight & the $ so now it's time to fight. Both fighter's are in their prime right now.
Don't start making excuses now , cause GGG or you didn't want the fight @ 154-159 either, and even now at 160 your still ****tin bricks.
I told people since day 1 that CANELO would beat GGG from 154-160 , tomorrow will be at Gennady's most comfortable weight, cause the queen wouldn't move 1 oz. or else we could of got the fight sooner.
........but for 147 pounders? Well we already know the story. CANELO derails the Hypetrain tomorrow night.
CANELO-"Golovkin your Next!"
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