Who Is Better P4p. The Dominant Vitali Klitschko or the Robber Manny Pacquiao?

[BoZz]

Vitali of course...the little paperchump duckqiao is scared to fight good fighters..he lost to marquez twice now..he's lucky his daddy arum made him and his pathetic career.

[ModernTalking]

Dang...did somebody beat Marquez up with a bat after the fight!

[Lords]

I know beating an old azz Mosley and Victor Ortiz in the same time doesn't make you P4P #1 either. Stop being ignorant. Funny how you ignore the victories which earned him the #1.

Pac was #1 in 2008 after having beaten Marquez, and having had recent KOs of Morales and a UD over Barrera.

After Mayweather's last fight before he retired, Pac solidified himself as #1 by winning titles in 5 divisions over 7 fights from 130-150 as a former flyweight, smashing guys no-one gave him a chance to beat before he moved up like De La Hoya, top 147lber Cotto and 140 king Hatton. When another flyweight does that, then you call it overrated.

Pac beats Marquez unimpressively but we all know he lost the fight. He beats Morales after Morales had already lost to a guy by the name of Zahir Raheem right before. He beats Barrera who had already had 61 fights under him and who has already been through battles with Morales. He beat a toothpick DeLaHoya who hadn't fought at that weight since 01. Yea top 147 pound Cotto but to bad the fight was at 145. 140 'king' Hatton who got KO'd by Floyd and who looked like shlt in his comeback fight. Cool story bro.

[JAB5239]

KEEP phucking dreaming... they haven't made a fighter past or present who's capable of destroying Vitali Klitschko..... the ONLY living species i'd favor over Vitali is A dinosaur because oF it's reach advantage back in the day!

Dinosaurs are a living species? Your paleontology is as bad as your boxing opinions.

[tangalog2200]

Dinosaurs are a living species? Your paleontology is as bad as your boxing opinions.

k.o...you gor him right smack on the chin....

[Mohammedini]

You are Misunderstanding the concept of term p4p.
Vitali is 6'8 and cuts down to get to 245-250 of almost pure muscle mass lol.
His opponents are almost always blown up LHW's or fat undersized CW- boarderline HWs.
His opponents average height are round 6'1½............. He's 6'8
He outweighs the majority of his opponents but those he doesn't are fat and out of shape.........

P4P in theory is about what if every fighter were the same size, who would be the best fighter then.

So you compare skills, which Vitali has a lot of no doubt but he lacks the opposition and he has a crazy size advantage over everyone in the HW div.
You could almost compare it a fighter fighting a person in a much lower weightclass and he outweighs his opponents with 20lbs of muscle mass and has a 6-7 inch height advantage over his opponent.
Thats exactly how its like in the HW div right now

[Bushbaby]

Pacquiao can't beat a blown up paperweight fighting at a weight where he literally has accomplished less than nothing. Vitali doesnt lose a round or get touched in fights and dominates everyone he faces. What criteria are people using to grade p4p? My guess is people are afraid to even speak Vitali's name, he is the Voldemort of boxing and thatswhy he isnt number 1 p4p, if you say his name too many times he's gonna get ya.

Pacman is litterally the very defination of the term pfp. Vitali is not. Pacman has jumped up & weight classes beating sometimes much bigger men. Vitali is bigger than almost everyone that he's ever faced. If Pacman & Vitali were the same size, Pacman would be better pfp.

But with that said, Vitali is more dominant, although that is based on him being bigger than 95% of the guys he's faced.

[tennishero]

heavyweights that would 100% beat vitali-
foreman 1973
ali 1967


heavyweights that could beat vitali-
joe louis
dempsey
liston

heavyweights that would be 50/50 vs vitali-
lennox
jack johnson
marciano
holmes

heavyweights that would get knocked out by vitali
tyson
holyfield
frasier
patterson

people 147 and under who could 100% beat peak pacquiao-
no one

people who might beat peak pacquiao- (50/50)
SRR (60/40 in pac's advantage)
SRL (70/30 in pac's advantage)
mayweather (90/10 in pac's advantage)

JMM has never beaten pac- even the first fight- the judge admitted a mistake that would have given a pac win

[Die Antwoord]

heavyweights that would 100% beat vitali-
foreman 1973
ali 1967


heavyweights that could beat vitali-
joe louis
dempsey
liston

heavyweights that would be 50/50 vs vitali-
lennox
jack johnson
marciano
holmes

heavyweights that would get knocked out by vitali
tyson
holyfield
frasier
patterson

people 147 and under who could 100% beat peak pacquiao-
no one

people who might beat peak pacquiao- (50/50)
SRR (60/40 in pac's advantage)
SRL (70/30 in pac's advantage)
mayweather (90/10 in pac's advantage)

JMM has never beaten pac- even the first fight- the judge admitted a mistake that would have given a pac win

Haha Foreman would beat Vitali? how? He is less skilled, he is weaker, he is dumb, he is insane, he is giving up 30 lbs of muscle, he has less stamina, less experience...what the fu&* does 1973 Foreman have on Vitali? Absolutely nothing. 1967 Ali couldnt withstand Henry Cooper's shots...Vitali would KO 1 Ali.

[Spray_resistant]

Just out o curiosity, why did he never avenge his loss to Byrd?

Did he really have to? does anyone really consider it a real win for Byrd? Byrd just happened to be at the right place at the right time he could have been any bum with a good enough chin not to be ko'd by VK.