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Old 11-15-2019, 07:24 PM #121
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When was prime Pac , and point out a non CW Pac that beats Canelo at 152 lol.

Ive never seen so much BS from people, hero worship must go to your head, but when I asked you about Thurmans injuries and surgery after the fight you go and stick your head in your ass .

Thats my biggest dislike with fanboys, they not real people because real people never run from the truth.
Agree. Fanboys are not fans of boxing. Man, it was nice to be ignorant of the ignorance of a lot of boxing fans before the internet. When I was growing up I thought ALL fans liked all boxers, just some more then others. I thought ALL boxing fans wanted to see the best fight the best even if it meant their guy might lose. I thought ALL boxing fans hated ALL promoters, and took anything they said with a grain of salt even if it positive to one of your favs. I thought we as fans were on one side, and promoters and the alpha bit boys were the enemy that was destroying our sport. Now you can clearly see how these guys get away with a lot of this sh it, because a lot of fans don't care about boxing, just their hero's. Sad, real sad.
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Old 11-15-2019, 07:41 PM #122
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Pac refused to fight Cotto at 150

lets not forget that
Good point. People like to bring up the one time May had a CW vs Canelo even though both Canelo AND his coach have said before, AND after fight that making 152 was no problem. Also Canelo would fight at 154 for another 3-4yrs, and was young. Pac fought Cotto at 145, and Cotto would never even fight at 147 ever again, he moved right to 54. Big difference. Mayweather could have asked for 150, and Canelo and his people would have taken it for that much money. Instead he makes a dumb move to show he was boss and asks for 152 and now has to live with people bringing it up.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:08 PM #123
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Canelo is a better counter puncher than Marquez, harder to hit, bigger and stronger so he would win. Pac will start out quick but will get caught
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:42 AM #124
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A lot of it comes from the anti Mayweather press like dougie fisher. People just cant control their personal bias. We all have some bias, but some of us can control it enough to judge a fighter fair. Anybody who don't think May is a ATG either DKSAB or cant control their bias. Its really that simple.
When facts are thrown at a fan, for that fan to deflect or deny, it will take copious amounts of buffoonery. And they are not shy about being buffoonish.
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Old 11-16-2019, 05:07 PM #125
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PAC KO’s Canelo in 6 rounds.
In his prime, the much superior boxer. Real boxing fans would know.
Casuals would not. Which most of all these f l 0 m 0 z don’t.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:21 PM #126
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PAC KO’s Canelo in 6 rounds.
In his prime, the much superior boxer. Real boxing fans would know.
Casuals would not. Which most of all these f l 0 m 0 z don’t.
Canelo has never been stopped or even dropped, and Pacquiao's power above 140 hasn't been as effective these last 10 years.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:57 PM #127
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Canelo has never been stopped or even dropped, and Pacquiao's power above 140 hasn't been as effective these last 10 years.
Pac's power *Not effective* above 140

Dropped Cotto
Dropped Mosley
Dropped Marquez
Dropped Algieri
Dropped Bradley
Dropped Vargas
Dropped Matthysse
Dropped Thurman

And he still baptizing them to the canvas in 2019.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:40 PM #128
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Pac's power *Not effective* above 140

Dropped Cotto
Dropped Mosley
Dropped Marquez
Dropped Algieri
Dropped Bradley
Dropped Vargas
Dropped Matthysse
Dropped Thurman

And he still baptizing them to the canvas in 2019.
If Manny could stop Canelo he would have stopped all of that list, instead everyone had an asterisk connected and everyone got up, Im sure none could take a bomb from GGG , putting those guys down is not near what it takes to put Canelo down, Alvarez gotta have one of the best chins in boxing he is a very strong fighter.

Manny wouldn't be able to do a thing with Canelo just too big and good at the size, Manny thought a 150 sloth landing 1 body punch was enough bad ass at 150 that he said he would never go there again, Canelo at 152 stops that shot version of Margarito in under 10 rounds and he would walk through Manny at that weight.

Cotto - CW

Mosley - come of a draw with a B grader and well gone at this point.

Marquez Iced him.

Algieri B grade.

Bradley first fight at WW

Vargas B+

Mattheyse shot , was stopped by light punching Postal.

Thurman- injuries needing surgery after fight , 2 yr out with major surgery and nearly stopped by a B grader in comeback fight.

Canelo would get rid of that line up like bowling pins, just too big, too many tools and building star momentum that is hard to break, the only way to beat Canelo is to out box him as Floyd did, love Canelo or hate him he is a very tough hombre in toe to toe battle.

You Manny fan boys really like to sugarcoat his resume, its full of holes when you know how to read form and matchmaking, read weights and measures, understand this sport and things are a lot more clearer.

Manny has had the best matchmakers in history create his resume, with his popularity its easy because he gets a pass for anything that others could never get away with.

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Old 11-16-2019, 09:48 PM #129
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Pac refused to fight Cotto at 150, and he refused to fight Martinez at 150

Canelo is better than both of them

Manny could NEVER handle the defensive counter-punching of Marquez

Canelo is probably better in both areas... and he is much bigger than Marquez, who was not a welter

that would be a very punishing fight for Pacquiao

Canelo would beat Pac at 152, and 150... and possibly even at 147, although Canelo was not as well-developed at welter as he is today
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the version of canelo that floyd fought arguably lost to austin trout lol

the pac that beat the crap out of margo was near his best

pac UD
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