As a diehard Pac and Big fan: Im sorry Em is better than both.

[Grand Champ]

Addition,

I don't think he's Top 10 All-Time, no. I don't pretend to have drawn up a list, but there are at least 10 who definitely who deserve to be ranked ahead of him in the form.


Do people here only judge Greatness by units shifted? Seriously??

Music isn't like sports teams, where 'greatness' and 'success' are mutually inclusive. You can be Great AND influential in music and have no mainstream success.

How many records you sell is one of the last factors to consider, and that's not me taking some anti-commerciality stance for the sake of it.


I regard 'The Slim Shady LP' as an ATG contender in music period, though, regardless of the form.




LOL, I don't even want to say, because I'll seem pessimistic and I'll be repeating myself. The flow, while rapid-fire, I'd call more awkward than dexterous, and the content is just a 'me, me, me' style rant with little in the way of shade, tone or general interest and no payoff at all.



Eminem at his best was the rap Robert Crumb. Hip-hop social-satire lyrical cartoonist.

lolol, fair enough MIB.

[120]

lol

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[S.G.]

Jay Z is versatile

Versatile at talking about himself. I mean, he has a thousand odd songs on the subject so he has to be.

I like bits and pieces of Jay-Z's back catalogue but I can't listen to him for prolonged periods. I get nothing out of listening to a guy brag about himself.

[PainKiller]

Anyway I am outta here.

People just can't accept my tastes and have driven me away

I never said I had the best list

[-The Glove-]

Is P diddy great at being commercial? Probably one of the best. He deserves a slot in there

Is Nas better than Jay Z? Not really but he is good. This is my personal taste and also I have to have honourable mentions to who I like

I am not saying that my top 10 is the best, but this is my list.

I don't even know what to say.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Because you don't have an argument? It's so easy to just make a sweeping statement then cop out of backing it up.



I have no problem acknowledging when Em was Great.

Please tell me in some kind of detailed analysis WHY the back end of Eminem's oeuvre should be considered "great".

Have you heard Recovery? I think you are underrating how difficult it is to rap like how Eminem does.

Case study:

I stuck my dick in this game like a rapist, they call me Slim Rothelsberger
I go beserker than a fed up post office worker
A murker with a mossberg, I'm pissed off, get murdered
Like someone took a ketchup squirter, squirted a frankfurter
For a gangsta, you should of **** your pants when you saw
The chainsaw get to waving like a terrible towel
I faced her around when his fangs come out, get your brains blown out
That's what I call blowing your mind, when I come back like nut on your spine
I'm a thumbtac that you slept on son
Now here I come screaming "attack" like I just stepped on one!
Lowering the totem til' he showed 'em, defiance, giant scrotum
He don't owe them *****es ****, his bridges, he out wrote 'em
He's so out cold, he's knocked out at the south pole and
Nobody ****s with him, rigamortis and post-mortem
He's dying of boredom, take your best rhymes, record 'em
Then try to thwart him, he'll take your punchlines and snort 'em
**** stained drawers, you gon' **** with the guy that licks the blades of his chainsaws
While he dips 'em in PF Chang sauce?
Game's off homie, hang it up like some crank calls
You think I'm backing down, you must be out your dang skulls!
I'm almost famous

Verse2:
I'm back for revenge, I lost the battle, that ain't happening again
I'm at your throat like strep, I step strapped with a pen
Metaphors wrote on my hand, some are just stored in my mem-ory
Some are wrote on a napkin, do what I have to to win
Pulling out all stops, any who touch a mic prior (kh)
Is not even Austin Powers, how the **** are they Mike Myers
And tell that psycho to pass the torch to the whacko 'for
I take a **** in his jackolantern then smash it on his porch
Now get off my dick, dick's too short of a word for my dick
Get off my antidisestablishmentarianism you prick!
Don't call me the champ, call me the space shuttle destroyer
I just blew up the challenger, matter of fact, I need a lawyer
I just laced my gloves with enough plaster to make a cast
Beat his ass naked and pee'd in his corner like Verne Troyer
Ya'll are Eminem backwards, you're menime's
See he's in a-whole-nother weight class, his slugs your BB's
Your bean bag bullets, you're full of it, you were dissing his CD's
Laughed at Infinite, now he's back like someone pissed in his wheeties
No peace treaty's, he's turned into a beast
His new Slim Shady EP's got the attention of the mighty DRE
He's almost famous



Verse: 3

Now there he goes, in Dre's studio, cupping his balls
Screaming the wood off the panelling, cussing the paint off the walls
Spewing his hate to these haters, showing no love for these broads
He ain't giving 'em ****, he's scissor pinch a penny so hard
He'll leave a bruise on the bronze so dark
You can see the mark when it scars, til Abraham Lincoln is screaming out "AHHH!"
His metaphors and similies ain't similar to them not at all
If they don't like they can all get ****ed, instead of sucking him off
They can go get a belt or a neck tie, to hang themselves by
Like David Carradine, they can go **** themselves and just die
And eat **** while they at it, he's ****ing had it
He's mad at the whole world, so go to hell and build a snowman, girl
The bullies become bullied, the ******* get pushed
and they better pull me, take me back to 9th grade to school me
Cause I ain't looking back only forward, this whole spot blowing
Who coulda known he'd grow to be a poet and not know it
And while I'm being poetic, let me get stoic
And raise the bar higher than my opinion of these women below it
So bare witness to some biblical ****
As the cold wind blowing, this world ain't gonna know what hit it, he did it, he made it, he's finally famous!

[PainKiller]

I don't even know what to say.

Look, I retire from this thread, don't trouble me

[Grand Champ]

Anyway I am outta here.

People just can't accept my tastes and have driven me away

I never said I had the best list

Driven you away? I made a small post to question why you had Lil Wayne in your top 10 but no Rakim and Nas in the bottom

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Anyway I am outta here.

People just can't accept my tastes and have driven me away

I never said I had the best list

Screw that. This thread is good. Dont let people tell you who should or shouldnt like.

**** 'em.

I like Gucci Mane. What? Sue me. If you dont rate Nas or Rakim that high. Thats fine because its YOUR list.

[heat27]

Here's my top 10

Eminem
Biggie
Tupac
50 Cent
Dr Dre
Snoop
Jay Z
Lil Wayne
Puff Daddy
Nas

the best part about this list is he put in the top 10 two guys who are known to not write thier own lyrics

dre and puff LMAO