Who wants to see Deontay Wilder KTFO by a russian cruiserweight?

[New England]

I wouldn't, it's been proven time and time again that it takes more than a six pack to win a fight

Again, I could say the guy to kick wards ass is playing in the premier leagu , but that's nonsense.

you can take the pedestrians, then. i'll take the athletic kid walking into my gym at 12 years old any day.

you're missing the point of the argument.


america dominated the HW division for years before these sports gained popularity. the demographic of the premiere league never did that.

[Skittlez]

@New England.

Soccer is the most watched and most played sport in Europe.

Soccer athletes are the fastest athletes and most supremely conditioned from 147-175..

If the EPL and La Liga didn't steal so many of these WW - LHW..S Europe would dominate 147-175.

Europe got at least a dozen FLoyd Mayweather's .. you think Floyd's special? They are a dime a dozen in the Premier League. You think Ward is special?
They are a dime a dozen in the La Liga..
You lucky the rest of the world loves soccer or the entire 147-HW will be over runned by 'shirtless Ronaldos'

Theo Walcott would have boxed circles around Lil Midget Floyd.

[Larry the boss]

He got up............that aint KTFO

[Skittlez]

lol @ IDIOTS WHO actually think NBA players got the balls to be Heavyweight Champions.

Can you imagine Michael Jordan taking a flush Lennox Lewis upper cut?
His head will be somewhere up in the air.. lol

He woulda quit like Vitali within 2 rounds. I don't even know of guys like Jordan would have made it to Lewis.. they probably would have gotten stopped against Morrison.

[Spray_resistant]

lol @ IDIOTS WHO actually think NBA players got the balls to be Heavyweight Champions.

Can you imagine Michael Jordan taking a flush Lennox Lewis upper cut?
His head will be somewhere up in the air.. lol

He woulda quit like Vitali within 2 rounds. I don't even know of guys like Jordan would have made it to Lewis.. they probably would have gotten stopped against Morrison.

I know its laughable how posters make up boxers who don't exist to try and explain away successful boxer who are dominant in this place called reality and not imagination land.

[Skittlez]

The Heavyweight division sucks because all the big guys are in the NBA.


YET YET..

THROUGH OUT THE HISTORY OF BOXING.

There have ONLY been FOUR Super Heavy weights with ATG Talent and abilities.

Lennox Lewis
Wladimir Klithscko
Riddick Bowe
Vitali Klitschko

There has not been ANOTHER super heavy with elite talent.

So where was all the Lennox Lewises during the 80's or the 90's?

The Division sucks now because the HW Division has ALWAYS sucked with the exception of TWO Eras.

The 70's and the 90's.

The 70's was vastly over hyped. To be honest.. The only true ELITE Division in heavyweight history was the 90's Era.

[Joeyzagz]

American Heavyweights are trash. Nothing new here.

[Drunken Cat]

i'm not sure what it is you're trying to propose. it is very hard to take a man with a shirtless ronaldo pic as an avatar seriously.

you'd prefer the current lot of dismal talent at HW to the best large athletes we have to offer?

the best athletes in the states who are large play other sports. basketball and football, primarily. these sports have only recently become extremely popular. the NBA boomed in the 90's and the NFL has boomed within the last 10 - 15 years. the booms of either league coincide with the drop of the level of american talent in the sport.


are these guys preordained champions?
no. but i'd wager they're going to be a hell of a lot better than fat arreola, or slow thompson, or the fat guys you see fighting at small casino.

This is always an interesting theory, there is probably something to it, but I wouldn't drag it too far. As far as the basketball player analogy is concerned, are we sure that they have the most conducive physique to be a heavyweight fighter? We have recent examples like Lewis, Wlad, and Vitali of 6'6 plus dominant heavyweights. But what about historically? They seem like sort of anomalous. Perhaps this is simply a reflection of the lack of talent, guys can get by with size and athleticism, whereas once they needed skill. Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes are each 6'3. Holyfield is listed 6'2 and a half at boxrec. Joe Frazier as 5'11 and a half. George Foreman, 6'3 and a half. Floyd Paterson, 6'0. Ken Norton, 6'3. Sonny Liston, 6'0 and a half. Joe Louis, 6'2.

I think that likely the big guys like Wilder are more so opportunists, capitalizing on a week landscape. Of course, big tall guys have been the recent norm, but historically they haven't been. Furthermore, heavyweights are generally less skilled today. Robert Hellenius is a good example, a guy with limited skill and physical ability, only size, who is nevertheless considered a contender.

I maintain, I don't think that 6'5 and above is really the ideal size for a heavyweight, except in some exceptional instances. Bowe was 6'5 for instance, and he was a good enough fighter. Lewis was highly skilled, although he was iced twice.

[happyman]

American Heavyweights are trash. Nothing new here.

aint that the truth.

[Mr. Philadel]

I don't think Wilder is any good...I never really liked him and I doubt I ever will...I can't really expalin what it is about him I don't like...dude is just corny...not wishing nothing bad on him but the day he gets KTFO is a step up in comp away...trust me!!