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  • Originally posted by original zero View Post
    their guarantees were 25MM & 9MM, but both had PPV upside.

    hopkins had fought for 350K the year before. so his drawing power then was nowhere close to GGG's drawing power now.

    GGG is going to sell out MSG as the A side in march. hopkins was never that level of attraction.
    And again....I said 30 and 10 million, 25 and 9 million were their guarantees

    "Although De La Hoya was the challenger for Hopkins's three titles, De La Hoya held the leverage in negotiations for the bout. De La Hoya is guaranteed $25 million and Hopkins $9 million. If the pay-per-view purchases are above 1.5 million, De La Hoya could get $35 million, and Hopkins could nearly double his take, Arum said."

    It didn't do 1.5...it did 1 million, thus Hopkins supposed total amount was 10 million. Oscar was also by far and away a bigger star than Canelo (who IS the draw) which is why the fight did 1 million, with his previous ppvs coming in a little over 900k.

    I don't care about selling out at MSG with low to mid priced tickets vs Jacobs. It's irrelevant when talking about fighting Canelo because that fight will be at Texas stadium or in Vegas where the Mexican fan base is very high, and why will it be there? Because Canelo, again, IS the draw here and I don't give a **** how you try to twist it around like a b1tchy pregnant woman, fact is fact.

    See, the difference is that GayLoveKin NEEDS Canelo to make a big payday, not the other way around. Canelo has options that the other side doesn't, canelo also has the time, which the other side doesn't.

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    • Originally posted by Ce1ska View Post
      How exactly do you duck someone that's two division up? GGG haters are traumatized, all they can say is bu...but Ward.
      Ward wasn't 2 divisions up when Gigi ducked him....and you KNOW this....he was at 168..the same divison Chavez Jr and Froch were when GGG offered them a fight at 158...not 164 like they did Ward.

      Anybody from 154 to 168...Ya'll remember that lie?

      Ward highhandedly stopped them from saying that.

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      • Originally posted by HandsofIron View Post
        That's true.
        Now quite as weak as it is today.

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        • Originally posted by CHOWWOKKA View Post
          You know 160 lb division is weak when GGG says that his toughest opponent to date was a welterweight.

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          • Originally posted by original zero View Post
            only 3 guys have pieced together the WBC/WBA/IBF middleweight titles. hagler. hopkins. GGG (yes i realize taylor lucked into facing someone that had already spent the time unifying).

            yes, GGG's resume is currently lacking superfights
            . that will change when he KOs canelo.
            It's not just lacking superfights...it's lacking any good fighters...period...There's NOT ONE elite fighter on his resume...maybe a WW? Lol there's NOT ONE future HOF fighter on his resume. You know what there is a lot of? BUMS, guys like the 100-1 Wade on house arrest, Daniel geale who was stopped by Cotto 1 Rd later and only weighed in at 153, and was also stopped in his last fight iirc, and there's quite a long list of fighters at a much lower level than that.

            Canelo has 2 Hof fighters on his resume, and 3 fighters who most would consider elite. I'm not even a fan of the kid, but you try to dress this **** up like it's some kind of barbie playhouse and cold hard facts only say golovkin is a joke, he's been a joke and I'll say it again...he's A HBO HYPE JOB PROJECT that they are ready to cash out on. They've got a lot of jock holding invested in this guy, they need to get something back.
            Last edited by Metho_4u; 12-29-2016, 07:28 AM.

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            • Originally posted by original zero View Post
              i don't know who tom is. sorry.

              yes, a flat fee of 10MM for a fight that will likely do a million buys or more is a lowball offer. when the fight is finally made, GGG will make a lot more than 10MM.

              it's easy to say someone is stupid. but can you prove it? either my positions have merit or they don't. your opinion of me personally is irrelevant. but it is very common for those of lower intelligence to assume the other person is stupid when they finally encounter someone of advanced intelligence.

              if you feel the need to compare intellectual credentials, we can do that. but it wouldn't turn out well for you.
              And on this statement? Don't blow your own c0ck there too much you pompous azz golovkin sac holder.

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              • Originally posted by Ce1ska View Post
                How exactly do you duck someone that's two division up? GGG haters are traumatized, all they can say is bu...but Ward.
                Ward is P4P 1 and he fought the most scared man in boxing and he beat him fairly comfortably, P4P 1 in 2016 and FOTY yall gigi clown fanboys just mad yall so mad why though?
                Lil G need to hurry up he nearly 40

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                • Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                  Ward wasn't 2 divisions up when Gigi ducked him....and you KNOW this....he was at 168..the same divison Chavez Jr and Froch were when GGG offered them a fight at 158...not 164 like they did Ward.

                  Anybody from 154 to 168...Ya'll remember that lie?

                  Ward highhandedly stopped them from saying that.
                  That's bull****. Ward hadn't made 168 in nearly 3 years and had just fought at 172 when he sent the offer to GGG. The offer was for a fight in the summer of 2016, and in the summer of 2016, Ward came out and said that he can't make 168 any more.

                  Nobody with a brain in their head should have needed Andre to tell them that. Him giving up his SMW title and coming back at LHW is all the evidence anybody should have needed.

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                  • Originally posted by Pepe The Frog View Post
                    Ward is P4P 1 and he fought the most scared man in boxing and he beat him fairly comfortably, P4P 1 in 2016 and FOTY yall gigi clown fanboys just mad yall so mad why though?
                    Lil G need to hurry up he nearly 40
                    Lmfao! Biased much?

                    You should apply for a job as a boxing judge with the Nevada Athletic Commission!
                    Last edited by kafkod; 12-29-2016, 08:49 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                      That's bull****. Ward hadn't made 168 in nearly 3 years and had just fought at 172 when he sent the offer to GGG. The offer was for a fight in the summer of 2016, and in the summer of 2016, Ward came out and said that he can't make 168 any more.

                      Nobody with a brain in their head should have needed Andre to tell them that. Him giving up his SMW title and coming back at LHW is all the evidence anybody should have needed.
                      Ward was at 168 when GGG started ducking.

                      "anybody from 154 to 168 can get it"
                      Ward made them shut that noise down.

                      Kell Brook jumped 2 divisions to fight GGG...why can't GGG take a risk for once????

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